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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Laura,  very well, you are a keen observer! Yes I'm aware of the 2nd order intermodulation, happening in the low current BCY58 preamp stages which are powered by a DC level present at the notebook's microphone input. There's also a strong 9 kHz beat from AM broadcast carriers. I'll need to provide some lowpass filtering at the input.  Compared to the E-field antenna, the loops seem to pick up a lot of 50 Hz harmonics from adjacent underground cables, but apparently less of the 16.7 Hz modulated junk from the railway line. 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Yes I'm aware of the 2nd order intermod= ulation, happening in the low current BCY58 preamp stages which=C2=A0are=C2= =A0powered by=C2=A0a DC level present at the notebook's microphone input. T= here's also a strong 9 kHz beat from AM broadcast carriers. I'll need to pr= ovide some lowpass filtering at the input. =C2=A0 Compared to the E-field antenna, the loops seem to pick up a lot=C2=A0of 50= Hz harmonics from=C2=A0adjacent underground cables, but apparently less of= the 16.7 Hz=C2=A0modulated junk from the railway line. Best 73, Markus -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: LZ <Laura.Zepam@gmx.de> An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Verschickt: Do, 24 Apr 2014 3:00 pm Betreff: Aw: VLF: Ebino vs Anthorn on colour-DF ;-) =20 Hi Markus,=20 =20 You wrote:=20 > Watch it live: http://www.df6nm.de/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm=20 =20 Looks impressive and encouraging...=20 =20 May be there are spurii from EFR visible at =20 14 kc (down-mixed/folded)=20 and =20 9.9 kc (intermod DCF49/DCF39)?=20 =20 Laura=20 =20 Sent from my Watson-Watt-Phone=20 =20 ----------MB_8D12DE72D2550C8_20A8_231D6_webmail-m268.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Laura,
 
very well,= you are a keen observer! Yes I'm aware of the 2nd order intermodulation, h= appening in the low current BCY58 preamp stages which are powered= by a DC level present at the notebook's microphone input. There's als= o a strong 9 kHz beat from AM broadcast carriers. I'll need to provide some= lowpass filtering at the input.
 
Compared t= o the E-field antenna, the loops seem to pick up a lot of 50 Hz harmon= ics from adjacent underground cables, but apparently less of the 16.7 = Hz modulated junk from the railway line.
Best 73,
Markus

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: LZ <Laura.Zepam@gmx.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 24 Apr 2014 3:00 pm
Betreff: Aw: VLF: Ebino vs Anthorn on colour-DF ;-)




 
Hi Markus,

You wrote:
> Watch it live: http://www.df6nm.de/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm

Looks impressive and encouraging...

May be there are spurii from EFR visible at
14 kc (down-mixed/folded)
and
9.9 kc (intermod DCF49/DCF39)?

Laura

Sent from my Watson-Watt-Phone



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