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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Pete, Mike, Alan, and all, I was also sceptic about the first "detection" (by the Malaysian or was it a Chinese search vessel). But to me, the spectrograms taken by the US team aboard Ocean Shield is convincing. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [195.4.92.90 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dl4yhf[at]freenet.de) -0.3 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: b08ad821341ca291e1fd930f7b9292d3 Subject: Re: LF: SpecLab helps plane hunt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Pete, Mike, Alan, and all, I was also sceptic about the first "detection" (by the Malaysian or was it a Chinese search vessel). But to me, the spectrograms taken by the US team aboard Ocean Shield is convincing. The screenshot at ABC is a bit blurred but one can nicely see the "bipp-bipp-bipp-..." periodic ultrasonic bursts (aka "pings"), just as they should look like: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-07/ocean-shield-detects-possible-mh370-black-box-signal/5372616 It's not just a wobbly carrier that comes and goes. In slow-CW-terms, it would be an "outstanding signal". The signal is picked up by a towfish pulled on a long cable, to get away from the QRM (vessel) as far as possible. Now keeping fingers crossed that the batteries last a bit longer than specified. The experts say the pinger's battery usually degrades slowly, instead of "going QRT" abruptly. 73, Wolf DL4YHF . Am 07.04.2014 16:16, schrieb M0FMT: > Hi all > > If their kit is that shaky do > they understand that EM "breakthrough" into the > long trailing antenna like cables from the sensors at 37.5 > kHz is possible? i.e. Powerful VLF TX operating in that > frequency range because of its sea penetrating properties > for very purpose of communicating with submerged Naval > Submarines. Or is the acoustic PING encoded to avoid this > confusion? > > 73 es GL Pete > M0FMT IO91UX > > -------------------------------------------- > On Mon, 7/4/14, Mike Dennison > wrote: > > Subject: LF: SpecLab helps > plane hunt > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, > rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk > Date: Monday, 7 April, 2014, 14:15 > > I have been amazed at the > low tech > methods apparently being used in > > the hunt for the 'pings' from the > black box of the missing > Malaysian > plane. > > But > today the BBC lunchtime news showed the Ocean Shield > search ship > using > DL4YHF's Spectrum Laboratory, presumably with a 96kHz > soundcard > as its input - > exactly the kit used for the recent amateur > > radio > transatlantic tests on 29kHz. > > Well done, Wolf. Your > excellent software may help solve this > > mystery. > > de Mike, > G3XDV > > > > >