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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Warren I cant see30kHz being particularly different for propgation in that part of the spectrum. I can see 2nd harmonic trashing WWVB clock synchronisation over a substantial area though, bearing in mind the receivers are very simple.........and most only try to sync around midnight. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.20.0.135 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 13ce2d45c6831942db3d21680606cc2e Subject: LF: Re: U.S. VLF License WH2XBA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01CF3564.8715FA80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CF3564.8715FA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Warren I cant see30kHz being particularly different for propgation in = that part of the spectrum. I can see 2nd harmonic trashing WWVB clock = synchronisation over a substantial area though, bearing in mind the = receivers are very simple.........and most only try to sync around = midnight. Alan G3NYK. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Warren Ziegler=20 To: rsgb_lf_group=20 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: LF: U.S. VLF License WH2XBA Hello the list, Several questions have come up concerning the WH2XBA grant and I = thought I might address them here. Bob W2ZM contacted me about applying = for a grant at the top end of the vlf range (just below 30kHz). The thought was that the high end of vlf would be a bit less = challenging than the low end below 9kHz (which is unregulated). Some of the usual suspects expressed interest so they were added = to the application. Also Jim AA5BW - Jim and I have a mutual friend = through work - Jim is highly capable and technical and has multiple = sites throughout the country. There was some concern that the = frequencies around 30kHz were unoccupied due to propagation reasons and = some thought it might be good to go a bit higher, hence the 27-59kHz = range, leaving clearance for WWVB at the top end.=20 The license is for 5W ERP, 27-59kHz, CW and every data mode that = I could think of. The application was filed on January 29 and the license issued on = February 27 - this was despite some Federal Holidays and closings due to = blizzards! So I suspect that it didn't raise too many questions. The stations are: WH2XBA/1 Bob W2ZM WH2XBA/2 Warren K2ORS WH2XBA/3 Jay W1VD WH2XBA/4 Dex W4DEX WH2XBA/5 Laurence KL1L=20 WH2XBA/6 /7 /8 etc etc James Plesa AA5BW WH2XBA Grant Attached. 73 Warren K2ORS --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ=20 WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 WG2XRS/1 WH2XBA/2 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CF3564.8715FA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Warren I cant see30kHz being = particularly=20 different for propgation in that part of the spectrum. I can see 2nd = harmonic=20 trashing WWVB clock synchronisation over a substantial area though, = bearing in=20 mind the receivers are very simple.........and most only try to sync = around=20 midnight.
 
Alan
G3NYK.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Warren = Ziegler=20
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 = 3:17=20 PM
Subject: LF: U.S. VLF License=20 WH2XBA

Hello the list,

    Several questions have come up concerning the = WH2XBA grant=20 and I thought I might address them here.  Bob W2ZM contacted me = about=20 applying for a grant at the top end of the vlf range (just below = 30kHz).
The thought was that the high end of vlf would be a bit less = challenging=20 than the low end below 9kHz (which is unregulated).

    Some of the usual suspects expressed interest so = they were=20 added to the application. Also Jim AA5BW - Jim and I have a mutual = friend=20 through work - Jim is highly capable and  technical and has = multiple=20 sites throughout the country.   There was some concern that the=20 frequencies around 30kHz were unoccupied due to propagation reasons = and some=20 thought it might be good to go a bit higher, hence the 27-59kHz range, = leaving=20 clearance for WWVB at the top end. 

     The license is for 5W ERP, 27-59kHz, CW and = every=20 data mode that I could think of.

    The application was filed on January 29 and the = license=20 issued on February 27 - this was despite some Federal Holidays and = closings=20 due to blizzards!  So I suspect that it didn't raise too many=20 questions.

     The stations are:
WH2XBA/1     = Bob=20 W2ZM
WH2XBA/2   Warren = K2ORS
WH2XBA/3     = Jay=20 W1VD
WH2XBA/4     = Dex=20  W4DEX
WH2XBA/5   Laurence=20 KL1L 
WH2XBA/6 /7 /8 etc etc James Plesa AA5BW
 

WH2XBA Grant Attached.

73 Warren K2ORS

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73 Warren K2ORS
        =  =20       WD2XGJ
          =  =20     WD2XSH/23
            =  =20   WE2XEB/2
              =  =20 WE2XGR/1
                = WG2XRS/1
               =20 WH2XBA/2

 
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