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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Laurence; Will run key down carrier here tonight start 2300 till 0400 when go to OP2H for 2 rounds [0800]. Carrier may show something-Bob From: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 11:11:06 -0800 Subject: RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz - ice and all [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.14 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rjraide[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: d4b11820086e28e9e085cef3e7768d06 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_231e59e6-720f-469b-881c-a8e0d677c330_" Subject: RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz - ice and all X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_231e59e6-720f-469b-881c-a8e0d677c330_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laurence=3B Will run key down carrier here tonight start 2300 till 0400 when go to OP2H= for 2 rounds [0800]. Carrier may show something-Bob =20 From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun=2C 9 Mar 2014 11:11:06 -0800 Subject: RE: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz - ice and all =0A= =0A= =0A= Jay - these plots are intriguing -perhaps Im reading the graphs wrong and = should turn the pages upside down :-) I got to say I never see WWVB signal= s at the levels indicated for Anchorage but of course I have to deal with J= JY too co-channel which do reaches these levels -hmm... and if I compare s= ignal to noise wise for the average Joe not a lot of people buy WWVB locked= devices as they just dont work up here. See http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688= /grp40/vb-coverage.cfm we never go Red=2C and notice the affect of the Roc= kies etc =20 What with VLF phase changes of Polar ice caps and perma frost causing highe= r loss modal paths=2C reflections from Mountain ranges causing standing wav= es=2C Moon/Sun tidal losses=2C effects from Red Sprites=2C Solar Proton eve= nts=2C Man kind globally causing VLF background noise increase and more so = during the work week=2C high modal losses East West Im surprised I see any= thing here...(grin) =20 There are a lot of papers out there on VLF profiling over various grounds= =2C some interesting facts on reflection coefficients' on vertical incident= s of VLF waves into glaciated areas etc.....and a lot more. =20 I think someone mentioned Siple2 and its VLF dipole - Siple was about 3400f= t ASL but I cant recall if the actual continental land mass is pushed lower= cos of the weight of the ice =3D in any case most of what I can recall was= my breakfast cutlery and the kitchen utensils humming musically whilst Jup= iter was running - I was surprised it didnt drive the guys mad who were sta= tioned there all the time... =20 No sign of /1 yesterday=2C well not a clear one - I did get a straight line= of a few pixels just pre sun down here but thats all. =20 Laurence KL7 L et al =20 =20 =20 From: markusvester@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun=2C 9 Mar 2014 16:46:16 +0100 Subject: Re: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Jay=2C are these plots based on measurement or =0A= simulation? 73=2C Markus=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From: jrusgrove@comcast.net =0A= Sent: Sunday=2C March 09=2C 2014 4:32 PM=0A= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A= =0A= Subject: Re: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz=0A= =0A= While not VLF=2C WWVB at 60 kHz shows no significant =0A= difference in signal level at various receiving locations summer vs. winter= . =0A= =0A= =0A= http://www.w1vd.com/WWVBwintersummersig.jpg=0A= =0A= As expected though=2C SNR is better in =0A= winter.=0A= =0A= http://www.w1vd.com/WWVBwintersummersnr.jpg=0A= =0A= Hard to believe things would be vastly different at =0A= 30 kHz ... but suppose anything is possible. =0A= =0A= =0A= Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 =0A= WG2XRS/2=0A= =0A= = --_231e59e6-720f-469b-881c-a8e0d677c330_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Laurence=3B
Will run key down= carrier here tonight start 2300 till 0400 when go to OP2H for 2 rounds [08= 00]. =3B Carrier may show something-Bob
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From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org
Date: Sun=2C 9 Mar 2014 11:11:06 -0800
Subject: RE: LF: Da= ytime 29.499 kHz - ice and all

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Jay - these plots are intriguing =3B -perhaps Im readi= ng the graphs wrong and should turn the pages upside down =3B:-)  = =3BI got to say I never see =3BWWVB signals at the levels indicated for=  =3BAnchorage but of course I have to =3Bdeal with JJY too =3Bc= o-channel which do reaches these levels =3B-hmm...  =3Band if I com= pare signal to noise =3Bwise for the =3Baverage Joe not a lot of pe= ople buy WWVB locked devices as they just dont work up here. See ht= tp://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/vb-coverage.cfm =3B we never go = Red=2C and notice the affect of the Rockies etc
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What =3B= with VLF =3Bphase changes of Polar ice caps and perma frost causing hig= her loss modal paths=2C reflections from Mountain ranges causing standing w= aves=2C =3BMoon/Sun tidal losses=2C effects from Red Sprites=2C Solar P= roton events=2C =3BMan kind globally causing VLF background noise incre= ase and more so during the work week=2C  =3Bhigh modal losses East West= Im surprised I see anything here...(grin)
 =3B
There are a lot o= f =3Bpapers out there on =3BVLF profiling over various =3Bgroun= ds=2C some interesting facts on reflection coefficients' on vertical incide= nts =3Bof VLF waves into =3Bglaciated areas etc.....and a lot more.=
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I think someone mentioned Siple2 and its VLF dipole - Siple= was about 3400ft ASL but I cant recall if the actual continental land mass= is pushed lower cos of the weight of the ice =3D in any case most of what = I can recall was my breakfast cutlery and the kitchen utensils humming musi= cally =3Bwhilst Jupiter was running - I was surprised it didnt drive th= e guys mad who were stationed there all the time...
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No sign = of /1 yesterday=2C well not a clear one - I =3Bdid get a straight line = of a few pixels just pre sun down here but thats all.
 =3B
Lauren= ce KL7 L et al
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From: markusvester@aol.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Date: Sun=2C 9 Mar 2014 16:46:16 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: Daytime 29= .499 kHz

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Jay=2C are these plots based on measur= ement or =0A= simulation? 73=2C Markus
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While not VLF=2C WWVB at 60 kHz shows = no significant =0A= difference in signal level at various receiving locations summer vs. winter= . =0A=
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As expected though=2C SNR is better in= =0A= winter.
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Hard to believe things would be vastly= different at =0A= 30 kHz ... but suppose =3Banything is possible. =0A=  =3B =3B =3B
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