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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: "But maybe you prefer sitting before your laptop" an unnecessary comment. If you want to play with CW , fine. I have absolutely no interest in QRO. I love playing with intelligent and sophisticated modes that makes it possible to use LOW power. Not only on MF, but also on HF. That is MY hobby . [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: e6de17d69e46ff4ea8db042ef2cd7e46 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Subject: Re: LF: Acivity etc. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false "But maybe you prefer sitting before your laptop" an unnecessary comment. If you want to play with CW , fine. I have absolutely no interest in QRO. I love playing with intelligent and sophisticated modes that makes it possible to use LOW power. Not only on MF, but also on HF. That is MY hobby . Bytheway, my intention was not to create a heated debate, but to answer a rhetorical question. I have no problem with some people's lack of interest. I fully respect that. LA5VNA S On 05.03.2014 19:40, C. Groeger wrote: > Chris, > Why not learning the code, buying a tx with reasonable power and having fun in CW? > The code is same as spoken language and you can talk to other hams in real time! > But maybe you prefer sitting before your laptop... > I do crossband QSOs with hams with no tx on mf but with serious interest in this band... > 73, DF5QG > > Christian Groeger > > Chris schrieb: > >> Hi All, >> There have been questions lately about lack of activity, Steinar suggests "Yes, lack of interest". >> I am not so sure that is the case. >> I agree with the comments about too many modes and would also add lack of publicity as to where each mode resides on the LF bands. The casual listener, who might well take an interest but is not on this reflector, is likely to quickly lose enthusiasm. >> Also, whilst I am all for the spirit of experimentation, just maybe the increased use of much lower frequencies has added to the problem by spreading activity so thinly. >> Another BIG problem, often overlooked by people making comments about other's lack of receive capability, the increasing noise/crud level from things like TVs, LED lights etc. >> Then there's the CW operator who sends so fast you can't even read his callsign (DF5QG - sorry!) and only appears to listen on another band, a band I don't use. >> Wolf has been doing a great job with WSQ, several of us locally have been testing his modified version which works well - on topband. I would suggest this mode is potentially ideally suited to LF and gets us away from the 'beacon' modes so frequently criticised on here. >> I am frequently monitoring the 472kHz band - when LED lights permit - and look forward to things settling down as the year progresses. >> Vy 73, >> Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, JO01MI.