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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Jay, are these plots based on measurement or simulation? 73, Markus From: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:32 PM To: Re: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz While not VLF, WWVB at 60 kHz shows no significant difference in signal level at various receiving locations summer vs. winter. [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.109.200 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: 7c995d39cde70605aa76dd18810a4256 Subject: Re: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0099_01CF3BB7.170521E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_70_80,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CF3BB7.170521E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay, are these plots based on measurement or simulation? 73, Markus From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:32 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz While not VLF, WWVB at 60 kHz shows no significant difference in signal = level at various receiving locations summer vs. winter.=20 http://www.w1vd.com/WWVBwintersummersig.jpg As expected though, SNR is better in winter. http://www.w1vd.com/WWVBwintersummersnr.jpg Hard to believe things would be vastly different at 30 kHz ... but = suppose anything is possible. =20 Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 WG2XRS/2 ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01CF3BB7.170521E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay, are these plots based on = measurement or=20 simulation? 73, Markus

From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 4:32 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: Daytime 29.499 kHz

While not VLF, WWVB at 60 kHz shows no = significant=20 difference in signal level at various receiving locations summer vs. = winter.=20
 
http://www.w1vd.com/= WWVBwintersummersig.jpg
 
As expected though, SNR is better in=20 winter.
 
http://www.w1vd.com/= WWVBwintersummersnr.jpg
 
Hard to believe things would be vastly = different at=20 30 kHz ... but suppose anything is possible.=20    
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  = WE2XGR/2 =20 WG2XRS/2
 
 
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