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To: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:17:58 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.6 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi, Gary, Tobias, All, The carrier is still weakly audible here also (15-00 utc). It's about 12dB above the noise, using my SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting. The signal is very steady, which probably means I'm seeing just the groundwave component. I think it gets a lot stronger after dusk. At the moment, it's about -103 dBm. [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.20.0.135 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.6 SUBJ_ALL_CAPS Subject is all capitals 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: f1498eebf16822c5ea85527a90413169 Subject: LF: RE: BIA NDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi, Gary, Tobias, All, The carrier is still weakly audible here also (15-00 utc). It's about 12dB above the noise, using my SPM-30 on the 24Hz bandwidth setting. The signal is very steady, which probably means I'm seeing just the groundwave component. I think it gets a lot stronger after dusk. At the moment, it's about -103 dBm. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Tobias DG3LV Sent: 28 February 2014 11:18 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: BIA NDB Hi Gary, Stefan ! The carrier at 473.806 is 30dB above noise here at (local) noon. Very steady signal. BIA carrier 474.0 is barely visible, 5dB or less above noise. Keying of BIA is not visible. (WSPR : G0HNW at -19dB, no QSB) 73 de dg3lv Tobias Am 28.02.2014 00:46, schrieb schaefer: > Hi Gary, > > Same on my grabber. It is 10 dB stronger than BIA here, i.e. it is not > BIA but another signal. BIA and its 2 sidebands is still on 474 kHz. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > Am 27.02.2014 23:15, schrieb Dave G3WCB.: >> Hi Gary. >> I'm hearing the new carrier on 473.8 also. It doesn't seem to be >> modulated. It's quite strong, but has some slow QSB, which would >> indicate that is some distance away from my location. >> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]*On Behalf Of *Gary - G4WGT >> *Sent:* 27 February 2014 21:48 >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk >> *Subject:* LF: BIA NDB >> >> Hi All, >> >> NDB "BIA" seems to be much stronger than usual, also it seems to >> have QSY'd down a little to 473.800kHz. >> But in saying that it looks like it may be another carrier as I am >> seeing the BIA carrier also strong on its usual frequency 474.000kHz. >> >> See this capture :- >> >> http://1drv.ms/1dFQW7L >> >> You should be able to move backwards & forwards within the series >> of captures. >> Comments please via LF. >> >> -- >> *73, de Gary - G4WGT >> >> MF-LF-VLF Grabber :http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html >> Web :http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html* >> >> . >>