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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Alan, Tnx for info ! It is so simple, but I did not thought about this. I thought it has more to do with low lightning levels or static's. It is still difficult for me to connect a link between audio frequency's and propagation... 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It is so simple, but I did not thought about this. I thought it has more to do with low lightning levels or static's. It is still difficult for me to connect a link between audio frequency's and propagation... 73's, Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Melia To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:54 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Noise level low at 8270 :-) You need to be careful in what you interpret from this! the noise may be low because the propagation is rubbish :-)) The conditions dont necessarily support this but we have just had a minor storm Kp=5 and the Dst was depressed to -60nT. I remember early on, on 136kHz when we thought that the best time for DX would be around dawn.......except it turned out that the morning and evening quiet periods were poor propagation periods as well. You need a signal to determine S/N :-)) particularly if N is changing. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: PA1SDB, Peter To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: RE: Noise level low at 8270 :-) Hello Bob, Interesting to see that the low noise today is at least "Europe wide" :-) Perhaps even Worldwide ??? I wonder if you publish your spectogram's online somewhere ? I think I did not see you in a 'grabber' list somewhere... Unfortunately I don't see anything right now at 8270.014 in your spectogram. I think to early to see first spikes :-) First sign here today was at 16:20 UTC. 73's, Peter - PA1SDB www.qsl.net/pa1sdb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bohuslav Coufal To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org' Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 3:47 PM Subject: LF: RE: Noise level low at 8270 :-) Me too https://www.dropbox.com/s/c4wx1dukmctmhxh/Mereni-8270-last.bmp 73, Bob., OK2BUM From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of PA1SDB, Peter Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:40 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Noise level low at 8270 :-) Hi ! Low noise at http://www.ok2bvg.cz/vlfgrabber/ ! Btw, here to :-) 73's, Peter - PA1SDB www.qsl.net/pa1sdb ------=_NextPart_000_1A3E_01CF2C16.D636C510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Alan,
Tnx for info !
It is so simple, but I did = not thought about=20 this. I thought it has more to do with low lightning levels or=20 static's.
It is still difficult for me to connect a = link=20 between audio frequency's and propagation...
 
73's, Peter.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alan Melia
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 = 6:54=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Noise = level low=20 at 8270 :-)

You need to be careful in what you = interpret from=20 this! the noise may be low because the propagation is rubbish = :-))  The=20 conditions dont necessarily support this but we have just had a minor = storm=20 Kp=3D5 and the Dst was depressed to -60nT.
 
I remember early on, on 136kHz when = we thought=20 that the best time for DX would be around dawn.......except it turned = out that=20 the morning and evening quiet periods were poor propagation periods as = well.  You need a signal to determine S/N :-)) = particularly if=20 N is changing.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 
 
  
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 PA1SDB, = Peter=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Monday, February 17, = 2014 6:19=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Noise = level low at=20 8270 :-)

Hello Bob,
Interesting to see that the low noise = today is at=20 least "Europe wide" :-)
Perhaps even Worldwide ???
 
I wonder if you publish your spectogram's = online=20 somewhere ?
I think I did not see you in a 'grabber' = list=20 somewhere...
 
Unfortunately I don't see anything right = now at=20 8270.014 in your spectogram.
I think to early to see first spikes=20 :-)
 
First sign here today was at 16:20=20 UTC.
 
73's, Peter - PA1SDB
 
www.qsl.net/pa1sdb
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Bohuslav Coufal=20
To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org'=20
Sent: Monday, February 17, = 2014 3:47=20 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Noise = level low at=20 8270 :-)

Me=20 too h= ttps://www.dropbox.com/s/c4wx1dukmctmhxh/Mereni-8270-last.bmp

 

73,

 

Bob.,=20 OK2BUM

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of = PA1SDB,=20 Peter
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:40 = PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject:=20 LF: Noise level low at 8270 :-)

 

Hi=20 !

 

Low noise=20 at http://www.ok2bvg.cz/vlfgrabber= / !

 

Btw, here=20 to :-)

 

73's,=20 Peter - PA1SDB

 

www.qsl.net/pa1sdb

 

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