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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Peter it might be that simple, or it might be a very complicated mixture :-)) yes static should be low at the moment (I havent looked at the Eu lighning charts) I could also be that your local car-repairer is off work with 'flu, though this event is obviously far wider than just local conditions, now we have a wider range of grabbers to sample for conditions. It is interesting because I would not expect the current geomagnetic conditions to have made that much difference......but it is interesting to ask the questions :-)) The only solution is try it and see if it IS better. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.20.0.124 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 724ac9e5efcdf47d2c3cbc99664ee9b2 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Noise level low at 8270 :-) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01CF2C1D.D1D08090" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CF2C1D.D1D08090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter it might be that simple, or it might be a very complicated = mixture :-)) yes static should be low at the moment (I havent looked at = the Eu lighning charts) I could also be that your local car-repairer is = off work with 'flu, though this event is obviously far wider than just = local conditions, now we have a wider range of grabbers to sample for = conditions. It is interesting because I would not expect the current = geomagnetic conditions to have made that much difference......but it is = interesting to ask the questions :-)) The only solution is try it and = see if it IS better. Good Luck Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: PA1SDB, Peter=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:31 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RE: Noise level low at 8270 :-) Hello Alan, Tnx for info ! It is so simple, but I did not thought about this. I thought it has = more to do with low lightning levels or static's. It is still difficult for me to connect a link between audio = frequency's and propagation... 73's, Peter. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan Melia=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:54 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: Noise level low at 8270 :-) You need to be careful in what you interpret from this! the noise = may be low because the propagation is rubbish :-)) The conditions dont = necessarily support this but we have just had a minor storm Kp=3D5 and = the Dst was depressed to -60nT.=20 I remember early on, on 136kHz when we thought that the best time = for DX would be around dawn.......except it turned out that the morning = and evening quiet periods were poor propagation periods as well. You = need a signal to determine S/N :-)) particularly if N is changing. Alan G3NYK =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: PA1SDB, Peter=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:19 PM Subject: LF: Re: RE: Noise level low at 8270 :-) Hello Bob, Interesting to see that the low noise today is at least "Europe = wide" :-) Perhaps even Worldwide ??? I wonder if you publish your spectogram's online somewhere ? I think I did not see you in a 'grabber' list somewhere... Unfortunately I don't see anything right now at 8270.014 in your = spectogram. I think to early to see first spikes :-) First sign here today was at 16:20 UTC. 73's, Peter - PA1SDB www.qsl.net/pa1sdb ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bohuslav Coufal=20 To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org'=20 Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 3:47 PM Subject: LF: RE: Noise level low at 8270 :-) Me too = https://www.dropbox.com/s/c4wx1dukmctmhxh/Mereni-8270-last.bmp =20 73, =20 Bob., OK2BUM =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of PA1SDB, Peter Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:40 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Noise level low at 8270 :-) =20 Hi ! =20 Low noise at http://www.ok2bvg.cz/vlfgrabber/ ! =20 Btw, here to :-) =20 73's, Peter - PA1SDB =20 www.qsl.net/pa1sdb =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01CF2C1D.D1D08090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Peter it might be that simple, or it = might be a=20 very complicated mixture :-)) yes static should be low at the moment (I = havent=20 looked at the Eu lighning charts) I could also be that your local = car-repairer=20 is off work with 'flu, though this event is obviously far wider than = just local=20 conditions, now we have a wider range of grabbers to sample for = conditions. It=20 is interesting because I would not expect the current geomagnetic = conditions to=20 have made that much difference......but it is interesting to ask the = questions=20 :-)) The only solution is try it and see if it IS better.
 
Good Luck
Alan
G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 PA1SDB, = Peter=20
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 = 7:31=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: RE: = Noise level=20 low at 8270 :-)

Hello Alan,
Tnx for info !
It is so simple, but I did = not thought about=20 this. I thought it has more to do with low lightning levels or=20 static's.
It is still difficult for me to connect = a link=20 between audio frequency's and propagation...
 
73's, Peter.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Alan Melia
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Monday, February 17, = 2014 6:54=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: RE: = Noise level=20 low at 8270 :-)

You need to be careful in what you = interpret=20 from this! the noise may be low because the propagation is rubbish=20 :-))  The conditions dont necessarily support this but we have = just had=20 a minor storm Kp=3D5 and the Dst was depressed to -60nT. =
 
I remember early on, on 136kHz when = we thought=20 that the best time for DX would be around dawn.......except it = turned out=20 that the morning and evening quiet periods were poor propagation = periods as=20 well.  You need a signal to determine S/N :-)) = particularly=20 if N is changing.
 
Alan
G3NYK
 
 
  
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 PA1SDB, Peter=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Monday, February 17, = 2014 6:19=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: RE: Noise = level low=20 at 8270 :-)

Hello Bob,
Interesting to see that the low noise = today is at=20 least "Europe wide" :-)
Perhaps even Worldwide ???
 
I wonder if you publish your = spectogram's online=20 somewhere ?
I think I did not see you in a 'grabber' = list=20 somewhere...
 
Unfortunately I don't see anything right = now at=20 8270.014 in your spectogram.
I think to early to see first spikes=20 :-)
 
First sign here today was at 16:20=20 UTC.
 
73's, Peter - PA1SDB
 
www.qsl.net/pa1sdb
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 Bohuslav=20 Coufal
To: 'rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org'=20
Sent: Monday, February = 17, 2014=20 3:47 PM
Subject: LF: RE: Noise = level low at=20 8270 :-)

Me=20 too h= ttps://www.dropbox.com/s/c4wx1dukmctmhxh/Mereni-8270-last.bmp

 

73,

 

Bob.,=20 OK2BUM

 

From: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of = PA1SDB,=20 Peter
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:40 = PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject:=20 LF: Noise level low at 8270 = :-)

 

Hi=20 !

 

Low=20 noise at http://www.ok2bvg.cz/vlfgrabber= / !

 

Btw,=20 here to :-)

 

73's,=20 Peter - PA1SDB

 

www.qsl.net/pa1sdb

 

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