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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Bob and all, > > It's much easier to put a good sigs out on 472 than 137 or > 73. Countless new modes to use and band conditions much more > predictable on 600 meters. I agree as far as PEP-versus-ERP is concerned. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [195.4.92.92 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dl4yhf[at]freenet.de) -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: b8b011f938af8abc4b241335cabd0691 Subject: Re: LF: LF Activity - G3XIZ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040408040404000400000304" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040408040404000400000304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Bob and all, > > It's much easier to put a good sigs out on 472 than 137 or > 73. Countless new modes to use and band conditions much more > predictable on 600 meters. I agree as far as PEP-versus-ERP is concerned. But from my experience when I was (very!) active on 136.x kHz in CW was that LF was actually more predictable than MF, especially at night when MF (over significant distances) differs from day to day, hour to hour, minute to minute by many dBs. Even if you are not limited to 1 Watt ERP (which we are in this country), it will be difficult to compensate the QSB's dynamic range (for audible CW QSOs) with a brute-force amplifier. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . --------------040408040404000400000304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello Bob and all,

It's much easier to put a good sigs out on 472 than 137 or 73.  Countless new modes to use and band conditions much more predictable on 600 meters.

I agree as far as PEP-versus-ERP is concerned.

But from my experience when I was (very!) active on 136.x kHz in CW was that LF was actually more predictable than MF, especially at night when MF (over significant distances) differs from day to day, hour to hour, minute to minute by many dBs.
Even if you are not limited to 1 Watt ERP (which we are in this country), it will be difficult to compensate the QSB's dynamic range (for audible CW QSOs) with a brute-force amplifier.

Cheers,
  Wolf DL4YHF .





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