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From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014, 17:14 Subject: Re: LF: OFCOM response re: UK sub-8.3kHz and very low power around 73kHz [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.97.23 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (evad_hine[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.3 HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD BODY: HTML font face is not a word 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: de74c1b05e8d69de301f516709bc3720 Subject: Re: LF: OFCOM response re: UK sub-8.3kHz and very low power around 73kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-293919475-2038042205-1393440495=:38288" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_COMMENT_8BITS, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_SHOUTING4,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_TABLE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL,WEIRD_QUOTING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ---293919475-2038042205-1393440495=:38288 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Best to now take up Tiddlywinks and Ludo -but=C2=A0first check! -the high f= lying counters (over 1/4")=C2=A0may need a special airborne safety flying N= OV!! Dave.=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Warren Ziegle= r =0ATo: rsgb_lf_group =0A= Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014, 17:14=0ASubject: Re: LF: OFCOM response = re: UK sub-8.3kHz and very low power around 73kHz=0A =0A=0A=0A=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0Sorry that you asked ?=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:00 P= M, Roger Lapthorn wrote:=0A=0AFor those intereste= d in the official UK OFCOM response see below:=0A>=0A>A precis of the follo= wing is basically that in the UK you need an NoV to operate below 8.3kHz an= d (just maybe can get one for) low powered operation around 73kHz with MoD = approval for 6 month periods. Above =0A3000GHz (e.g. IR and optical) the wi= reless telegraphy act does NOT apply. =0AEarth-mode or utilities assisted e= arth-mode (through the ground) can be =0Aused without a licence (is my read= ing) but not if signals are =0Aessentially radiated.=C2=A0 No real surprise= s, but disappointingly "official"=C2=A0 and " boring" responses. No initiat= ive being shown on their part. The thrust seems to be EM radiation, so wher= e the propagation is essentially by induction I think one may be exempt too= .=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>"Spectrum Licensing (to me)=0A> =0A>Your ref: 1-= 641-1681low =0A>=0A>Dear Roger, =0A>Thank you for your email and apologies = for the delay in responding.=0A>There is no lower limit for the definition = of =E2=80=98wireless telegraphy=E2=80=99 in the Wireless Telegraphy Act 200= 6, only an upper limit* and we unaware of any order changing that. Transmis= sions below 8.3 kHz would =0Astill be covered by the WT Act and would need = the relevant =0Aauthorisation, even if there is no Allocation available in = the UK FAT.=C2=A0 =0AAs you are most likely wanting to do this under the au= thorisation of your amateur radio licence, you would need to apply for a va= riation.=0A>Unfortunately, the UK amateur radio licence does not authorise = use of 73 kHz and we do not note it in any relevant exemption regulations, = such as The Wireless Telegraphy (Testing and Development Under Suppressed R= adiation Conditions) (Exemption) =0ARegulations 1989. So any intended opera= tion(s) would also have to be the subject of a variation.=0A>If you wish to= approach Ofcom for a NoV we would need you to provide as =0Amuch informati= on as possible. Information required would be things like =0Aradiated power= , frequency, bandwidth, antenna type, height, NGR, whether directional (and= , if so, =0Adirection), elevation, class of emission and purpose of use. We= may be =0Aable offer a variation, but initially this would likely be for a= =0Atemporary period e.g. six months. However, there is no guarantee that w= e can authorise this use. =C2=A0We also note that the =0A73 kHz band is UK2= and that means prior approval from the MoD would need to be sought.=C2=A0 = =0A>*=E2=80=9C116=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CWireless telegraphy=E2= =80=9D. =0A>(1)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In this Act =E2= =80=9Cwireless telegraphy=E2=80=9D means the emitting or receiving, over pa= ths that are not provided by any material substance constructed or =0Aarran= ged for the purpose, of energy to which subsection (2) applies. .=0A>(2)=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 This subsection applies to electrom= agnetic energy of a frequency not exceeding 3,000 gigahertz that=E2=80=94 .= =0A>(a)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 serves for conveying mes= sages, sound or visual images (whether or not =0Athe messages, sound or ima= ges are actually received by anyone), or for =0Aoperating or controlling ma= chinery or apparatus; or .=0A>(b)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= is used in connection with determining position, bearing or distance, =0Ao= r for gaining information as to the presence, absence, position or =0Amotio= n of an object or of a class of objects. .=0A>(3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The Secretary of State may by order modify the definitio= n of =E2=80=9Cwireless =0Atelegraphy=E2=80=9D by substituting a different f= requency for the frequency that is for the time being specified in subsecti= on (2). .=0A>(4)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 No order is to b= e made containing provision authorised by subsection =0A(3) unless a draft = of the order has been laid before Parliament and =0Aapproved by a resolutio= n of each House=E2=80=9D=0A>We hope the above information helps.=0A>Regards= =0A>Ash =0A>::Ash Gohil=0A>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Team Leader =0A>=C2=A0 Spectr= um Licensing=0A>=C2=A0 Spectrum Operations=0A>=C2=A0=C2=A0020 7783 4425 =0A= >=C2=A0=C2=A0ash.gohil@ofcom.org.uk =0A>:: Ofcom=0A>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0River= side House =0A>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02a Southwark Bridge Road=0A>=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0London SE1 9HA =0A>=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://www.ofcom.org.uk/ =0A>=0A>=0A>= " =0A>=0A>=0A>-- =0A>=0A>http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/=0A>http://www.g3xb= m.co.uk/=0A>https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/=0A>http://qss2.blogspot.= com/=0A>http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm=0A>=0A> =0A=0A=0A-- =0A73 Warren= K2ORS=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 WD2XGJ =0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 WD2XSH/23=0A=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 WE2XEB/2=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 WE2XGR/1 ---293919475-2038042205-1393440495=:38288 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="-293919475-260740082-1393440495=:38288" ---293919475-260740082-1393440495=:38288 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Best to now take up Tiddlywinks = and Ludo -but first check! -the high flying counters (over 1/4") = may need a special airborne safety flying NOV!! Dave.
From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
= To: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_grou= p@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 February 2014, 17:14
Subject: Re: LF: OFCOM response re: UK sub-8.3kHz and ve= ry low power around 73kHz

    &nb= sp;Sorry that you asked ?


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapthorn@gma= il.com> wrote:
=0A
For those interested in the official U= K OFCOM response see below:
=
=
A precis of the foll= owing is basically that in the UK you need an NoV to operate below 8.3kHz a= nd (just maybe can=0A get one for) low powered operation around 73kHz with = MoD approval for 6 month periods. Above =0A3000GHz (e.g. IR and optical) th= e wireless telegraphy act does NOT apply. =0AEarth-mode or utilities assist= ed earth-mode (through the ground) can be =0Aused without a licence (is my = reading) but not if signals are =0Aessentially radiated.  No real surp= rises, but disappointingly "official"  and " boring" responses. No ini= tiative being shown on their part. The thrust seems to be EM radiation, so = where the propagation is essentially by induction I think one may be exempt= too.
=0A=0A



"Spectrum Licensing (to me)
<= /td>
Your ref: = 1-641-1681low
Dear Rog= er,
=0A=0A
Thank you for your email and apologi= es for the delay in responding.
There is no lo= wer limit for the definition of =E2=80=98wireless telegraphy=E2=80=99 in th= e Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006, only an upper limit*=0A and we=0A unaware of any order changing that. Transmissi= ons below 8.3 kHz would =0Astill be covered by the WT Act and would need th= e relevant =0Aauthorisation, even if there is no Allocation available in th= e UK FAT.  =0AAs you are most likely wanting to do this under the auth= orisation=0A of your amateur radio licence, you would need to apply for a v= ariation.
Unfortunately,=0A the UK amateur rad= io licence does not authorise use of 73 kHz and we do=0A not note it in any= relevant exemption regulations, such as The Wireless=0A Telegraphy (Testin= g=0A and Development Under Suppressed Radiation Conditions) (Exemption) =0A= Regulations 1989. So any intended operation(s) would also have to be the=0A= subject of a variation.
If=0A you wish to app= roach Ofcom for a NoV we would need you to provide as =0Amuch information a= s possible. Information required would be things like =0Aradiated power, fr= equency,=0A bandwidth, antenna type, height, NGR, whether directional (and,= if so, =0Adirection), elevation, class of emission and purpose of use. We = may be =0Aable offer a variation, but initially this would likely be for a = =0Atemporary period e.g. six months. However, there=0A is no guarantee that= we can authorise this use.  We also note that the =0A73 kHz band is U= K2 and that means prior approval from the MoD would need=0A to be sought.&n= bsp;=0A
*=E2=80=9C116     = =E2=80=9CWireless telegraphy=E2=80=9D.
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(1)       =0A In this Act =E2=80=9Cwire= less telegraphy=E2=80=9D means the emitting or receiving, over=0A paths tha= t are not provided by any material substance constructed or =0Aarranged for= the purpose,=0A of energy to which subsection (2) applies. .
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(2)        This subsecti= on applies to electromagnetic energy of a frequency not exceeding 3,000 gig= ahertz that=E2=80=94 .
=0A=0A
(a)  &n= bsp;    =0A serves for conveying messages, sound or vis= ual images (whether or not =0Athe messages, sound or images are actually re= ceived by anyone), or for =0Aoperating or controlling=0A machinery or appar= atus; or .
(b)     &n= bsp; =0A is used in connection with determining position, bearing or d= istance, =0Aor for gaining information as to the presence, absence, positio= n or =0Amotion of an object or=0A of a class of objects. .
(3)       =0A The Secretary= of State may by order modify the definition of =E2=80=9Cwireless =0Atelegr= aphy=E2=80=9D by substituting a different frequency for the frequency that= =0A is for the time=0A being specified in subsection (2). .
(4)       =0A No order is = to be made containing provision authorised by subsection =0A(3) unless a dr= aft of the order has been laid before Parliament and =0Aapproved by a resol= ution=0A of each House=E2=80=9D
We hope the ab= ove information helps.
Regards
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