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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 3 Feb 2014, at 16:34CET, Stefan Schäfer wrote: > As long as there are no interferences to other services, That is the critical point. There are some services which do not appear often, but which need a clear channel when they do. 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There are some services which do not appear = often, but which need a clear channel when they do. > this does not feel wrong, or does it? And if so, why? Comments please! = Thus i think the analogy is NOT "leaving your car across the exit from = the local fire station" Or, explain which service is in analogy to the = local fire station here?? I recall an offshore broadcasting station in the North Sea which = inadvertently tuned up on its second harmonic (2182 kHz =96 the distress = and calling frequency for marine radio telephony). It rendered the = frequency unusable for more than half an hour, preventing coast stations = from Niton through Scheveningen to Humber monitoring for distress calls. In any case, what counts in the end is not the letter of the law but the = attitude of the enforcement agency in the country concerned. 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