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Content preview: ....the positive part is that; If you get arrested, because of the allocation regulations law trouble, you are not taken seriously when you say you'r broadcasting at ~8270.000 Hertz and therefore you will not be declared sane :-) [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [213.75.39.4 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 611f9af8a0f6ba007b1ec6dce409caf4 Subject: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz in the UK freuency allocations Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_19F7_01CF1C3D.98FE2910" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_19F7_01CF1C3D.98FE2910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ....the positive part is that; If you get arrested, because of the allocation regulations law trouble, you are not taken seriously when you say you'r broadcasting at ~8270.000 Hertz and therefore you will not be declared sane :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Hine To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:07 PM Subject: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz in the UK freuency allocations Just use it and experiment! -it is ok as those low frequencies are of no interest to the commercial world, Dave From: g3zjo To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2014, 14:52 Subject: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz in the UK freuency allocations Hi Roger On 28/01/2014 14:06, Roger Lapthorn wrote: Quoting from the entry in the published UK frequency allocations table: "Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom" In the UK I take this to mean ANYONE can operate below 8.3kHz without licence or NoV permits being needed, assuming no interference to services above 8.3kHz. Its odd isn't it, a case of how you read it. There have been thoughts stated elsewhere recently, personally I don't think it means. Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom, so it is a free for all. It could be. Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom, and so are not protected from interference. Or Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom and never will be. Or Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom and must be kept clear at all times. Or Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom as they are receive only and used for research. More words are needed for clarity, maybe its not specified in order to do keep control of what goes on there, the total opposite of a free for all. 73 Eddie ------=_NextPart_000_19F7_01CF1C3D.98FE2910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
....the positive part is that;
If you get arrested, because of the allocation = regulations law=20 trouble, you are not taken seriously when you say=20 you'r broadcasting at ~8270.000 Hertz and therefore you will = not be=20 declared sane :-)
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Hine
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 = 3:07=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Below 8.3kHz = in the UK=20 freuency allocations

Just use it and experiment! -it is ok as those = low=20 frequencies are of no interest to the commercial world, = Dave

From: = g3zjo <g3zjo@psk31.plus.com>
<= SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Tuesday, 28 = January=20 2014, 14:52
Subject: Re: LF:=20 Below 8.3kHz in the UK freuency allocations

Hi Roger

On 28/01/2014 14:06, Roger Lapthorn wrote:=20

Quoting from the entry in the published = UK=20 frequency allocations table:

"Bands=20 below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United
Kingdom"

In the UK I take this to mean ANYONE can operate below 8.3kHz = without=20 licence or NoV permits being needed, assuming no interference to = services=20 above 8.3kHz.

Its odd isn't it, a = case of how=20 you read it. There have been thoughts stated elsewhere recently,  = personally I don't think it means.
Bands below 8.3 kHz are not = allocated=20 within the United Kingdom, so it is a free for all.

It could=20 be.
Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United = Kingdom, and so=20 are not protected from interference.
Or
Bands below 8.3 kHz are = not=20 allocated within the United Kingdom and never will be.
Or
Bands = below=20 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the United Kingdom and must be kept = clear at=20 all times.
Or
Bands below 8.3 kHz are not allocated within the = United=20 Kingdom as they are receive only and used for research.

More = words are=20 needed for clarity, maybe its not specified in order to do keep = control of=20 what goes on there, the total opposite of a free for all.

73=20 = Eddie



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