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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Paul-Henrik and VLF. If someone does TX elswhere besides around 8970.000 Hz, I will open or re configure a new SL window for him/her. No problem. So if in your area regulations have problems with the WRC 2012, go down and I/we will follow :-) These day's no one is active around 8270, so I have no receiver active there.... [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [213.75.39.15 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: ce481d129b1a7277ee248e941d6e5100 Subject: Re: RE: LF: 8.3 kHz in response to Markus Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1A31_01CF07FC.546C7220" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1A31_01CF07FC.546C7220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Paul-Henrik and VLF. If someone does TX elswhere besides around 8970.000 Hz, I will open or re configure a new SL window for him/her. No problem. So if in your area regulations have problems with the WRC 2012, go down and I/we will follow :-) These day's no one is active around 8270, so I have no receiver active there.... 73's Peter - PA1SDB www.qsl.net/pa1sdb ----- Original Message ----- From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 6:01 PM Subject: Re: RE: LF: 8.3 kHz in response to Markus Hi Markus es all, tks for FW. but seems to be well known stuff. pse see: Hi Uwe & All, Also watching 8270Hz here now. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/9khz.html 73, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: PA1SDB, Peter To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: Re: LF: VLF 8270Hz One SL window here also QSY to 8270 Hz. www.qsl.net/pa1sdb ----- Original Message ----- From: Lubos OK2BVG To: _RSGB_LF Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:09 PM Subject: RE: LF: VLF 8270Hz Hello Uwe, LF! OK, my grabber is ready (the window nr 4). I am looking forward to see your good signal. 73! Lubos, OK2BVG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:05:43 +0100 From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: VLF 8270Hz Hi all, the 8970.001Hz TX has been switched off today. I will try txing on 8270Hz and am collecting coil former and wire (litze > 1,5mm/d) from now on. Is the QRG 8270Hz OK? Or is it occupied? GL Uwe/dj8wx ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet: 02.01.2014 11:22 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: RE: LF: 8.3 kHz in response to Markus ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul; I don't know you but am sure you are a serious "LFer". Personally, I would definitely "respectfully" request a permit for the "dreamers band" weather or not you ever use it-Bob, WG2XRS/4, WE2XEB, WE2XGR/6 NY. > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 17:23:02 +0200 > From: phl@netikka.fi > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: 8..3 kHz in response to Markus > > Hello Markus & LF > > 8.3 - 9 kHz became "regulated" in Finland after WRC 2012. > > When WRC 2012 was still in preparation I asked about the need for > special permits regarding sub 9 kHz activities and the answer already > back then was that no amateur activity between 8.3 kHz and 9 kHz will > be permitted since the passive weather observing allocation was > already in planning for WRC 2012. There was no imminent reason for not > granting such permits below 8.3 kHz however. > > > So if an OH amateur will ever dare a try at the dreamers band it will > have to be below 8.3 kHz. To my knowledge nobody here has applied for > such a permit so far. Perhaps I should create a "pilot case" by filing > an application even if my capacity for such operations is zero at the > moment . > > > BR > > Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ > > > ------=_NextPart_000_1A31_01CF07FC.546C7220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Paul-Henrik and VLF. 
 
If someone does TX elswhere besides around = 8970.000 Hz,=20 I will open or re configure a new SL window for = him/her.
No problem. So if in your area regulations=20 have problems with the WRC 2012,  go down and I/we will follow = :-)
These day's no one is active around 8270, so I = have no=20 receiver active there....
 
73's Peter - PA1SDB
 
www.qsl.net/pa1sdb
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de =
Sent: Thursday, January 02, = 2014 6:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: RE: LF: 8.3 kHz in = response=20 to Markus

Hi=20 Markus es all,
tks for FW.
but seems to be well known stuff. pse = see:

Hi Uwe & = All,=20

Also=20 watching 8270Hz here now.=20

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/9khz.html=20

73, Gary -=20 G4WGT.

 

----- Original = Message=20 -----

From: = PA1SDB,=20 Peter=20

To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

Sent: = Wednesday, March 27, = 2013=20 10:40 PM =

Subject: Re: LF: VLF = 8270Hz

One SL window = here also QSY=20 to 8270 Hz.

www.qsl.net/pa1sdb

 ----- Original Message = -----=20

From: = Lubos=20 OK2BVG=20

To: = _RSGB_LF

Sent: Wednesday, March 27, = 2013 7:09=20 PM

Subject: RE: LF: VLF = 8270Hz

 

Hello Uwe, LF!

OK, my grabber is ready (the window nr 4). I am looking = forward to=20 see your good signal.

73!

Lubos, OK2BVG 

Date: Wed, 27 Mar=20 2013 17:05:43 +0100
From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de
To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Su= bject:=20 LF: VLF 8270Hz

Hi=20 all,
the 8970.001Hz TX has been switched off=20 today.
I will try=20 txing on 8270Hz and am collecting coil former and wire (litze >=20 1,5mm/d)
from now on.=20
Is the QRG 8270Hz OK? = Or is it=20 occupied?
GL
Uwe/dj8wx

 


Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Gesendet: 02.01.2014 11:22
An: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: RE: LF: 8.3 kHz in response = to=20 Markus

Paul;
I don't know you but am sure you are a serious = "LFer".  Personally, I would definitely "respectfully" request a = permit=20 for the "dreamers band" weather or not you ever use it-Bob, = WG2XRS/4,=20 WE2XEB, WE2XGR/6 NY.
 
> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 17:23:02 +0200
> From:=20 phl@netikka.fi
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> = Subject: LF:=20 8..3 kHz in response to Markus
>
> Hello Markus & = LF
>=20
> 8.3 - 9 kHz became "regulated" in Finland after WRC = 2012.
>=20
> When WRC 2012 was still in preparation I asked about the need = for=20
> special permits regarding sub 9 kHz activities and the answer = already=20
> back then was that no amateur activity between 8.3 kHz and 9 = kHz will=20
> be permitted since the passive weather observing allocation = was=20
> already in planning for WRC 2012. There was no imminent = reason for=20 not
> granting such permits below 8.3 kHz however.
> =
>=20
> So if an OH amateur will ever dare a try at the dreamers band = it will=20
> have to be below 8.3 kHz. To my knowledge nobody here has = applied for=20
> such a permit so far. Perhaps I should create a "pilot case" = by=20 filing
> an application even if my capacity for such operations = is zero=20 at the
> moment .
>
>
> BR
>
> = Paul-Henrik / OH1LSQ
>
>
>=20
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