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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Andy, I will be looking for you starting 20 UTC. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T [...] Content analysis details: (-1.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [134.58.240.130 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.6 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 5cca23158d24fe812f69c90c19e7adae Subject: LF: RE: Re: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF. Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_005_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FCDF8D1ICTSSMBX1lunaku_"; type="multipart/alternative" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false --_005_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FCDF8D1ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FCDF8D1ICTSSMBX1lunaku_" --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FCDF8D1ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, I will be looking for you starting 20 UTC. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens Andr=E9 Guy=E9 [andre.guye1@aliceadsl.fr] Verzonden: vrijdag 31 januari 2014 14:50 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Re: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF. Hello Rick ! I hope perhaps to meet you to night on JT9 ? Best 73. Andy F6CNI. From: Rik Strobbe Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF. Hello Wolf, all, my antenna is a 22m long and 11m high "lazy-L" (=3D marconi antenna with to= pload). It is surrounded by many trees, in fact some trees act as support. The loss resistance varies from 70 Ohm in summer to 30 Ohm in winter (if it= is freezing for some days). To that I have to add +/- 5 Ohm variometer loss. Fortunately we have a 5 W EIRP limit on 472kHz, so any losses can be compen= sated by increasing power ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens wolf_dl4yhf [dl4yhf@freenet.de] Verzonden: vrijdag 31 januari 2014 14:14 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF. Hello Andy, Thanks for the info. That's a very nice antenna (larger than what I use her= e at the moment), and a base impedance of 18 - j * 560 Ohm is really impres= sive. When I put the antenna at DF0WD into service some years ago (total wi= re length ~60 meters, 11 to 15 meters above ground, and with the radial sys= tem fully intact) I thought that a resistive component of approx 26 Ohm was= "good". Now its more around 30 Ohm, and before laying out two new radials = (partially under the grass) it was 35 Ohm i.e. quite lossy. Wonder what others with comparable antennas (the 'Marconi' type, or vertica= l wire with a lot of topload) are measuring. Have a nice weekend, Wolf DL4YHF . Am 31.01.2014 10:58, schrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9: Merci Wolf. A nice QSO with you. I am still on QRP configuration, using a 3 Watts outpu= t TX. HI. I like very much QRP. The antenna is an Inv L base loading. Total wire length is 80 meters, and t= he horizontal wire is 12 meters up. The feeding base impedance is ( 18 - 56= 0 j ). It needs a 190 =B5H serial coil to resonate. Best 73 de Andy, F6CNI. From: wolf_dl4yhf Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:27 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: France QRV - JT9 on 630m Merci Andy, SNR during your CQ call was -16 dB (in 2.7 kHz, I presume), later dropped t= o -25 during the QSO. Would have been ok for CW if there had not been the qsb ;-) Now IZ7SLZ and I5EFO in JT9-1 on qrg, both around -20 dB here. 73, Wolf DL4YHF JO42FD Am 30.01.2014 17:57, schrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9: F6CNI also be QRV this evening JT9. 73 de Andy From: F4DTL@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:52 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: CQ CQ F4DTL JT9 on 630m Rendez vous at 2100 GMT this evening F4DTL Nicolas JN18FP ________________________________ [cid:CA8D860CEA2E4FDEA186E904E061608C@F6CNI] Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant = parce que la protection Antivirus avast! est active. ________________________________ [cid:CA8D860CEA2E4FDEA186E904E061608C@F6CNI] Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant = parce que la protection Antivirus avast! est active. ________________________________ [cid:8AD7366-57DA-41688-BAFD-D5AED11334@MimeCtl] Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant = parce que la protection Antivirus avast! est active. --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FCDF8D1ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Andy,

 

I will be&nb= sp;looking for = you starting 20 UTC<= a target=3D"_blank">.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Andr=E9 Guy=E9 [andre.guye1@alice= adsl.fr]
Verzonden: vrijdag 31 januari 2014 14:50
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF.

Hello Rick !
 
I hope perhaps to meet you to night on JT9 ?
 
Best 73. Andy F6CNI.
 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:36 PM
Subject: RE: LF: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF.
 

Hello Wolf, all,

 

my antenna is a 22m lo= ng and 11m high "lazy-L<= /a>" (=3D marconi antenna with topload).

It is surrounded by many trees, in fact some trees act as support.

The loss resistance varies= from 70 Ohm in summer to 30 Ohm in winter (if it<= /a> is freezing for some days).

To that I have to add = +/- 5 Ohm variometer loss.

Fortunately we have a 5 W EIRP limit on 472kHz,= so any losses can be compensated by increasin= g power ;-)

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T=

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens wolf_dl4yhf [dl4yhf@freenet.de] Verzonden: vrijdag 31 januari 2014 14:14
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: DL4YHF - F6CNI : JT9 QSO on MF.

Hello Andy,

Thanks for the info. That's a very nice antenna (larger than what I use her= e at the moment), and a base impedance of 18 - j * 560 Ohm is really impres= sive. When I put the antenna at DF0WD into service some years ago (total wi= re length ~60 meters, 11 to 15 meters above ground, and with the radial system fully intact) I thought that a re= sistive component of approx 26 Ohm was "good". Now its more aroun= d 30 Ohm, and before laying out two new radials (partially under the grass)= it was 35 Ohm i.e. quite lossy.

Wonder what others with comparable antennas (the 'Marconi' type, or vertica= l wire with a lot of topload) are measuring.


Have a nice weekend,
  Wolf DL4YHF .




Am 31.01.2014 10:58, schrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9:
Merci Wolf.
 
A nice QSO with you. I am still on QRP configuration, using a = 3 Watts output TX. HI. I like very much QRP.
 
The antenna is an Inv L base loading. Total wire length is 80 meters, = and the horizontal wire is 12 meters up. The feeding base impedance is ( 18= - 560 j ). It needs a 190 =B5H serial coil to resonate.
 
Best 73 de Andy, F6CNI.
 
 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: LF: France QRV - JT9 on 630m
 
Merci Andy,
SNR during your CQ call was -16 dB (in 2.7 kHz, I presume), later dropped t= o -25 during the QSO.
Would have been ok for CW if there had not been the qsb ;-)

Now IZ7SLZ and I5EFO in JT9-1 on qrg, both around -20 dB here.


73,
  Wolf  DL4YHF
  JO42FD


Am 30.01.2014 17:57, schrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9:
F6CNI also be QRV this evening JT9.
 
73 de Andy
 
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:52 PM
Subject: LF: CQ CQ F4DTL JT9 on 630m
 
Rendez vous at 2100 GMT this evening
 
F4D= TL Nicolas JN18FP


Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant = parce que la protection Antivirus avast! es= t active.





Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant = parce que la protection Antivirus avast! es= t active.





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