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From: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 18:54:36 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: VLF exciter / signal generation in Spectrum Lab Slip of the keys Bob, [...] Content analysis details: (0.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.33 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rjraide[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: 32f0c002d258ce351b2c37fe18ccfa3a Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_a0281ede-a720-4a25-8074-6490b93153b7_" Subject: RE: LF: VLF exciter / signal generation in Spectrum Lab X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1701 --_a0281ede-a720-4a25-8074-6490b93153b7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The OP1H is essentially OP65? =20 From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun=2C 29 Dec 2013 18:54:36 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: VLF exciter / signal generation in Spectrum Lab =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Slip of the keys Bob=2C =0A= =0A= OP64 ~~ 1 Hour =0A= =0A= OP1 =3D 60 seconds =0A= =0A= Op4H 4 hours =2C is the =0A= 8KHz version =2C uses the sound card as =0A= SDR =2C but at 8KHz .so to use on =0A= other bands =2C the keying is ok from the =0A= com-port ..but the rx audio needs to be =0A= shifted upto 8K ..........if the rx has =0A= a wide bfo [ ppl locked] like the ra6790 =0A= then I can set pass band 2.4k Hz =2C cw =0A= and off set the bfo + dial to get 8K =0A= audio=0A= =0A= But with normal Rx =2C then =2C =0A= needs software up convertor =2C SL will do this =0A= .........going to need to be a little stable over =0A= the rf path as op4H is 4x less able to =0A= track drift as is op64 . but that =0A= should not be a problem =0A= =0A= Its worth a try for the =0A= other TX stations =2C if can the get a TA decode ? =0A= =0A= 73 -G=2C =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From: Bob Raide =0A= Sent: Sunday=2C December 29=2C 2013 6:27 PM=0A= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A= =0A= Subject: RE: LF: VLF exciter / signal generation in Spectrum =0A= Lab=0A= =0A= G=3B What is the OP1 and 4H modes? Bob =20 =0A= =0A= =0A= From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: =0A= Sun=2C 29 Dec 2013 17:56:01 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: VLF exciter / signal =0A= generation in Spectrum Lab =0A= Thanks Wolf=2C=0A= =0A= With the 8K signals out side the Op decoder =2C =0A= some users wanted to monitor the test =2C =0A= but needed a way of changing the qrg =0A= slightly to match =2C=0A= =0A= The other thing =2C that occurred to me =2C =0A= was the other 75 K stations =2C may have a TA chance =0A= using Op4H =2C +6 dB gain over op1H in the =0A= 'window' time =2C may be 1 run or 2 max =0A= ? ... recovering the 8K audio may be a problem =0A= =2C my ra6790gm has a locked bfo range =0A= of +/- 19KHz or so =2C but =2C for normal =0A= ssb-rx =2C then a shift up from 1500 would =0A= be needed [ may even catch Bob on 4H hihi]=0A= =0A= 73-G=2C =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From: wolf_dl4yhf =0A= Sent: Sunday=2C December 29=2C 2013 1:25 PM=0A= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A= =0A= Subject: Re: LF: VLF exciter / signal generation in Spectrum =0A= Lab=0A= =0A= Hello Graham=2C Am 29.12.2013 14:04=2C schrieb =0A= Graham: =0A= =0A= Wolf=2C=0A= =0A= Q How to configure SL as audio =0A= frequency changer ? =0A= =0A= say 1500 Hz to 8 KHz =2C or =2C 8100 to =0A= 8200 etc =0A= =0A= how is the set up ?=20 The =0A= easiest way is using the 'narrowband filter'=2C which can also shift freque= ncies. =0A= Start by selecting 'Quick Settings' in the menu=2C then 'Other amateur radi= o =0A= modes'=2C 'Narrow CW filter with adjustable xyz'. You can see the filter's = =0A= passband on the main frequency scale=2C along with the 'zero beat' indicato= r =0A= similar to a web sdr. Grab the passband widh the mouse and move it to the = =0A= 'source' frequency range. Alternatively=2C enter the frequency shift in num= eric =0A= form on the filter control panel. Details: http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/filters.htm#filter_controls_on_main_freq_= scale =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= will SL appeared as a sound source =0A= ?It can=2C but unfortunately only as an ASIO device. =0A= Microsoft's ever-changing driver model is so utterly complex that I gave up= =0A= writing my own 'multimedia driver'. Also I didn't feel like re-inventing th= e =0A= wheel for XP=2C Vista=2C Win7=2C Win8=2C and whatever-comes-next... :o) T= hus =0A= the easiest (??) method would be to use Virtual Audio Cable. The more =0A= complex (but VAC-less) way=2C if ASIO is supported by the audio-receiving = =0A= application=2C is decribed in the 'Audio I/O' manual: http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/AudioIO/AudioIO_Manual.pdf The =0A= relevant chapter would be "Installation of in_AudioIO.dll as an ASIO =0A= device". Now back to the soldering iron.. 73=2C Wolf =0A= . = --_a0281ede-a720-4a25-8074-6490b93153b7_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The OP1H is essentially OP65? =3B
From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sun=2C 29 Dec 2013 18:54:36 +0000=
Subject: Re: LF: VLF exciter / signal generation in Spectrum Lab
=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Slip of the =3B keys =3BBob=2C =3B&nb= sp=3B
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 =3B OP64 =3B ~~ =3B 1 Hour =3B <= /font>
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OP1 =3B =3D 60 seconds
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Op4H =3B =3B 4 =3B hours =3B =2C = is the =3B =0A= 8KHz =3B version =3B =2C =3B uses the =3B sound =3B car= d =3B as =3B =0A= SDR =2C but =3Bat =3B =3B 8KHz =3B .so =3B to =3B u= se =3B on =3B =0A= other =3B bands =3B =2C the =3B keying =3B is ok from the&n= bsp=3B =0A= com-port =3B ..but the =3B rx audio =3B needs =3B to = =3B be =3B =0A= shifted =3B upto =3B =3B 8K =3B ..........if the =3B rx=  =3B has =0A= a =3B wide =3B bfo [ ppl locked] =3B like the =3B ra6790&nb= sp=3B =0A= then =3B I can =3B set =3B pass =3B band =3B 2.4k Hz&nb= sp=3B =2C cw =3B =0A= and off set the =3B bfo =3B + dial =3B to =3B get =3B 8= K =0A= audio
=0A=
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But =3B with =3B normal =3B Rx =2C th= en =3B =2C =0A= needs =3B software =3B up convertor =2C SL will =3B do =3B = this =3B =0A= .........going =3B to need =3B to =3B be a little =3B stabl= e =3B over =0A= the =3B rf =3B path =3B as =3B op4H is =3B =3B 4x l= ess able to =3B =0A= track =3B drift =3B as =3B is =3B op64 =3B . but = =3B that =3B =0A= should =3B not =3B be a =3B problem =3B
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Its =3B worth =3B a =3B try =3B f= or the =3B =0A= other TX stations =2C if can the get a =3B TA decode =3B? =0A=
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73 -G=2C
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From: Bob Raide
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Sent: Sunday=2C December 29=2C 2013 6:27 PM
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Subject: RE: LF: VLF exciter / signal generation in Spectrum = =0A= Lab
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What is the OP1 and 4H modes? =3B Bob
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=0A= From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blac= ksheep.org
Date: =0A= Sun=2C 29 Dec 2013 17:56:01 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: VLF exciter / signal = =0A= generation in Spectrum Lab

=0A=
Thanks Wolf=2C
=0A=
 =3B
=0A=
With the 8K signals =3B out side =3B the =3B Op decoder&nb= sp=3B =2C =0A= some =3B users =3B wanted =3B to =3B monitor the =3B te= st =3B =2C =0A= but =3B needed =3B a =3B way of =3B changing the =3B qr= g =3B =0A= slightly to =3B match =2C
=0A=
 =3B
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The =3B other =3B thing =2C that =3B occurred =3B to&n= bsp=3B me  =3B=2C =0A= was =3B the =3B other 75 K stations =3B =2C may have a =3B = TA chance =3B =0A= using =3B Op4H =3B=2C +6 dB gain over op1H =3B  =3Bin the&n= bsp=3B =0A= 'window' =3B time =2C =3B may be =3B 1 =3B run or =3B 2=  =3B max =3B =0A= ? ... recovering =3B the =3B 8K audio =3B may =3B be a = =3B problem =0A= =2C =3B my =3B ra6790gm =3B =3B has a =3B locked bfo&nb= sp=3B range =3B =0A= of =3B +/- =3B 19KHz or =3B so =3B =2C but =3B =2C for&= nbsp=3B normal =3B =0A= ssb-rx =3B =2C then =3B a =3B shift =3B up from =3B 150= 0 =3B would =0A= be =3B needed [ may even =3B catch Bob =3B on 4H =3B hihi]<= /div>=0A=
 =3B
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73-G=2C
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Sent: Sunday=2C December 29=2C 2013 1:25 PM
=0A= =0A=
Subject: Re: LF: VLF exciter / signal generation in Spectrum = =0A= Lab
=0A=

=0A=
Hello Graham=2C

Am 29.12.2013 14:0= 4=2C schrieb =0A= Graham:
=0A=
=0A=
Wolf=2C
=0A=
 =3B
=0A=
Q How to =3B configure =3B SL =3B as =3Baudio =0A=  =3Bfrequency =3B =3B changer ? =3B =3B
=0A=
 =3B
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say =3B =3B 1500 Hz to =3B 8 KHz =2C or =2C 8100 to = =3B =0A= 8200 =3B =3B etc
=0A=
 =3B
=0A=
how is the =3B set =3B up =3B ?
<= br>The =0A= easiest way is using the 'narrowband filter'=2C which can also shift freque= ncies. =0A=
Start by selecting 'Quick Settings' in the menu=2C then 'Other amateur = radio =0A= modes'=2C 'Narrow CW filter with adjustable xyz'. You can see the filter's = =0A= passband on the main frequency scale=2C along with the 'zero beat' indicato= r =0A= similar to a web sdr. Grab the passband widh the mouse and move it to the = =0A= 'source' frequency range. Alternatively=2C enter the frequency shift in num= eric =0A= form on the filter control panel. Details:

http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spe= clab/filters.htm#filter_controls_on_main_freq_scale


=0A=
=0A=
 =3B
=0A=
 =3B
=0A=
will SL =3B appeared as a =3B sound =3B source =3B = =0A= ?
It can=2C but unfortunately only as an ASIO device. =0A= Microsoft's ever-changing driver model is so utterly complex that I gave up= =0A= writing my own 'multimedia driver'. Also I didn't feel like re-inventing th= e =0A= wheel for XP=2C Vista=2C Win7=2C Win8=2C and whatever-comes-next... =3B= :o) =3B Thus =0A= the easiest (??) method would be to use Virtual Audio Cable.

The mor= e =0A= complex (but VAC-less) way=2C if ASIO is supported by the audio-receiving = =0A= application=2C is decribed in the 'Audio I/O' manual:

http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/AudioIO/AudioIO_Manu= al.pdf

The =0A= relevant chapter would be "Installation of in_AudioIO.dll as an ASIO =0A= device".



Now back to the soldering iron..

73=2C = =3B Wolf =0A= .


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