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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Shoot Hartmut an e mail direct as he just answered me and is on his PC. He of course can give you direct-correct info-Bob h-wolff@gmx.de From: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 17:09:50 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as usual... 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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1556 --_7889b140-732e-42ac-9a1d-cc169c0d8d3d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shoot Hartmut an e mail direct as he just answered me and is on his PC. He= of course can give you direct-correct info-Bob h-wolff@gmx.de=20 =20 From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed=2C 11 Dec 2013 17:09:50 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as usual... =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Bob=0A= =0A= We need the local decodes from =0A= Wolf =2C they have the fade pattern plotted out =2C the web =0A= linked plots have the fade % but not the =0A= distribution =0A= Op is giving a calibrated =0A= precision s/n level average along =0A= the time line =2C so what your getting is =0A= accurate propagation data =2C you can recover it from the =0A= psk-map data base with a web sql search =2C or =0A= keep the Opera software running on a web =0A= linked PC and any band activity will =0A= be listed =0A= =0A= The total lack of signal in the Uk is =0A= not expected ! but last night =2C you could =0A= of dropped to 10% power =2C which =2C =0A= considering the wavelength =2C from the same Ae =2C =0A= starts to point to better prop than 136 ? =0A= odd =2C the path would support OP16 =0A= at that level as well at full power !=0A= =0A= 73-G=2C =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From: Bob Raide =0A= Sent: Wednesday=2C December 11=2C 2013 3:48 PM=0A= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A= =0A= Subject: RE: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as =0A= usual...=0A= =0A= G=3B Take a look at Henny's capture and see earlier signal. =0A= Compare with Hartmut's capture that shows more signal later. All in =0A= all the band was good but varies as to when it peaks in a given area. Hartmut =0A= and Henny and a few others have hot antennas and receivers. Hartmut =0A= uses a directional ant. Do some write-ups on these hot-shot blokes =0A= and there equipment. They have very serious 73 band equipment =0A= that really "cuts the mustard". Bob =20 =0A= =0A= =0A= From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed=2C =0A= 11 Dec 2013 14:49:37 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 =0A= dial as usual... =0A= This new fangled 75KHz stuff =2C Gary =2C its =0A= going strait over our heads .... =0A= =0A= G=2C =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From: Gary - G4WGT =0A= Sent: Wednesday=2C December 11=2C 2013 2:10 PM=0A= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A= =0A= Subject: Re: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as =0A= usual...=0A= =0A= Oooopps !! >>The Alan=2C G3NYK & =0A= original....... Sorry=2C typo :- Should be :- Alan=2C G3NYK & =0A= original...... 73=2C de Gary - G4WGT=0A= =0A= MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html=0A= Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html=0A= =0A= .On 11/12/2013 13:29=2C Gary - G4WGT wrote: =0A= =0A= Graham=2C Bob. I agree=2C skip looks =0A= likely or something similar. I have not had a glimpse of any of Bob's or =0A= Dex's signals & as you know I was first to set up a 24/7 grabber for =0A= 74kHz. The Alan=2C G3NYK & original UK 73kHz chaps should be able to =0A= help here with a reason ! 73=2C de Gary - G4WGT=0A= =0A= MF-LF-VLF Grabber : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html=0A= Web : http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/index.html=0A= =0A= .On 11/12/2013 11:33=2C Graham wrote: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Bob =0A= =0A= 3 LF Guys in the UK still no =0A= show =2C but Wolf =2C up to -35 dB =2C looks like the hat =0A= trick =2C 3 in a row .. -35 is a significant =0A= signal =2C at that level OP16 would decode =2C =0A= g4wgt/g0ktn/g8huh all have good LF set ups =0A= =2C -35 is 9 dB over the op65 level ... =0A= =0A= =0A= Skip distance ? =2C where is =0A= Alan when you need him hihi=0A= =0A= 73=2C G=2C=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= -36=0A= OPERA=0A= 0.073=0A= 11/12/2013 =0A= 02:22=0A= WG4XRS=0A= FN12LQ=0A= DL-SWL=0A= JO52HP=0A= =0A= -35=0A= OPERA=0A= 0.073=0A= 11/12/2013 03:27=0A= WG4XRS=0A= FN12LQ=0A= DL-SWL=0A= JO52HP=0A= =0A= -41=0A= OPERA=0A= 0.073=0A= 11/12/2013 04:33=0A= WG4XRS=0A= FN12LQ=0A= DL-SWL=0A= JO52HP=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Txmtr=0A= Rcvr=0A= Band=0A= Mode=0A= Distance=0A= Time (UTC)=0A= =0A= WG4XRS=0A= DL-SWL=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 3880 miles=0A= 04:33:32=0A= =0A= WG4XRS=0A= K3SIW-2=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 580 miles=0A= 06:44:56=0A= =0A= WG4XRS=0A= K3SIW-1=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 580 miles=0A= 06:44:58=0A= =0A= WG4XRS=0A= W3NF=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 233 miles=0A= 02:22:06=0A= =0A= G0KTN=0A= G0KTN=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 kms=0A= 08:09:46=0A= =0A= G8HUH=0A= G8HUH=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 kms=0A= 08:09:09=0A= =0A= KU7Z=0A= KU7Z=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 miles=0A= 08:00:48=0A= =0A= G4WGT=0A= G4WGT=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 kms=0A= 10:48:35=0A= =0A= W3NF=0A= W3NF=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 miles=0A= 02:16:28=0A= =0A= K3SIW=0A= K3SIW=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 miles=0A= 21:07:23=0A= =0A= WG4XRS=0A= WG4XRS=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 miles=0A= 06:54:11=0A= =0A= VE7BDQ=0A= VE7BDQ=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 kms=0A= 09:09:11=0A= =0A= K3SIW-1=0A= K3SIW-1=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 miles=0A= 08:34:59=0A= =0A= K3SIW-2=0A= K3SIW-2=0A= 4000m=0A= OPERA=0A= 0 miles=0A= 09:14:57=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =20 =0A= =0A= From: Bob Raide =0A= Sent: Tuesday=2C December 10=2C 2013 11:52 PM=0A= To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A= =3B Bob Raide =0A= Subject: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as =0A= usual...=0A= =20 =0A= OP/OPDS65 tonight as promised and WSPR 15 tomorrow night. =0A= Thanks to W1VD and group for decodes to get me dialed in-should be =0A= interesting tomorrow night for first time on WSPR 15 on 73 band full = =0A= night-73-Bob WG2XRS/4 [WG4XRS] NY =0A= No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: =0A= 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6909 - Release Date: =0A= 12/10/13 =0A= No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: =0A= 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6909 - Release Date: =0A= 12/10/13 = --_7889b140-732e-42ac-9a1d-cc169c0d8d3d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Shoot Hartmut an e mail direct a= s he just answered me and is on his PC. =3B He of course can give you d= irect-correct info-Bob
h-wolff@gmx.de<= /a>
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From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co= .uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wed=2C 11 Dec 2013 17:09:5= 0 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as usual...=

=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Bob
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We need =3B the =3B local =3B decodes=  =3B from =0A= Wolf =2C they have the =3B fade pattern =3B plotted =3B out =2C= the =3B web =0A= linked =3B plots =3B have the =3B fade % =3B but =3B no= t the =3B =0A= distribution
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Op is =3B giving a =3B calibrated =3B=  =3B =0A= precision =3B s/n =3B level =3B =3B =3Baverage =3B = along =3B =0A= the =3B time =3B line =3B=2C so =3B what your getting = =3B is =0A= accurate =3B propagation data =2C you =3B can =3B recover it fr= om the =3B =0A= psk-map =3B data base with a =3B web =3B sql =3B =3B se= arch =2C or =3B =0A= keep =3B the =3B Opera =3B software =3B running =3B on = a =3B web =0A= linked =3B PC and =3B any =3B band =3B activity =3B wil= l =3B =0A= be =3B listed =3B
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The total =3B lack =3B of =3B signal = in the Uk is =0A= not =3B expected ! =3B but =3B last =3B night =2C you = =3B could =3B =0A= of =3B dropped =3B to =3B =3B 10% power =2C which =3B = =2C =0A= considering =3B the =3B wavelength =2C from the =3B same Ae&nbs= p=3B =2C =0A= starts =3B to =3B point to better =3B prop =3B than 136 ?&n= bsp=3B =0A= odd =3B =2C  =3Bthe =3B path =3B would =3B support = =3B OP16 =3B =0A= at =3B that =3B level =3B as well at =3B full =3B power= !
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Sent: Wednesday=2C December 11=2C 2013 3:48 PM
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Subject: RE: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as =0A= usual...
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Take a look at Henny's capture and see earlier sig= nal. =3B =0A= Compare with Hartmut's =3Bcapture that shows more signal later. =3B= All in =0A= all the band was good but varies as to when it peaks in a given area.
Ha= rtmut =0A= and Henny and a few others have hot antennas and =3Breceivers. =3B = Hartmut =0A= uses a directional ant. =3B Do some write-ups on these hot-shot =3B= blokes =0A= and there equipment. =3B They have very =3Bserious 73 band equipmen= t =0A= that =3Breally "cuts the mustard". Bob
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=0A= From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: = Wed=2C =0A= 11 Dec 2013 14:49:37 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-= 73 =0A= dial as usual...

=0A=
This =3B new =3B fangled =3B 75KHz stuff =3B =2C Gary = =2C its =0A= going =3B strait =3B over =3B our =3B heads =3B ....&nb= sp=3B
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Sent: Wednesday=2C December 11=2C 2013 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as =0A= usual...
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=0A=
Oooopps !!

>=3B>=3BThe Alan=2C= G3NYK &=3B =0A= original.......

Sorry=2C typo :-
Should be :- Alan=2C G3NYK &= =3B =0A= original......

73=2C de Gary - G4=
WGT=0A=
                            =0A=
MF-LF-VLF Grabber : ht=
tp://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html=0A=
Web : http://myweb.tiscali.c=
o.uk/wgtaylor/index.html=0A=
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On 11/12/2013 13:29=2C Gary - G4WGT wrote:
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Graham=2C Bob.

I =3B agree= =2C skip looks =0A= likely or something similar.
I have not had a glimpse of any of Bob's = or =0A= Dex's signals &=3B as you know I was first to set up a 24/7 grabber fo= r =0A= 74kHz.

The Alan=2C G3NYK &=3B original UK 73kHz chaps should be= able to =0A= help here with a reason !

73=2C=
 de Gary - G4WGT=0A=
                            =0A=
MF-LF-VLF Grabber : ht=
tp://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html=0A=
Web : http://myweb.tiscali.c=
o.uk/wgtaylor/index.html=0A=
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On 11/12/2013 11:33=2C Graham wrote:
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Bob
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3 =3BLF Guys in the =3B UK still = =3B no =3B =0A= show =2C but =3B Wolf =3B =2C up to =3B -35 dB =2C looks li= ke the =3B hat =0A= trick =3B =2C 3 =3B in a =3B row .. -35 is a =3B signif= icant =3B =0A= signal =3B =2C at that =3B level =3B OP16 would =3B dec= ode =2C =3B =0A= g4wgt/g0ktn/g8huh =3B =3B all have =3B good =3B LF set = ups =0A= =2C =3B =3B -35 =3B is 9 dB =3B over the =3B op65&n= bsp=3B level ... =0A=
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Skip distance ? =3B =2C where =3B is&= nbsp=3B =0A= Alan =3B when you =3B need =3B him =3B hihi=0A=
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WG4XRSK3SIW-1=0A= 4000mOPERA580&nbs= p=3Bmiles06:44:58
WG4XRSW3NF4000mOPERA233&nbs= p=3Bmiles02:22:06
G0KTNG0KTN4000mOPERA0 = =3Bkms08:09:46
G8HUHG8HUH4000mOPERA0 = =3Bkms08:09:09
KU7ZKU7Z4000mOPERA0 = =3Bmiles08:00:48
G4WGTG4WGT4000mOPERA0 = =3Bkms10:48:35
W3NFW3NF4000mOPERA0 = =3Bmiles02:16:28
K3SIWK3SIW4000mOPERA0 = =3Bmiles21:07:23
WG4XRSWG4XRS4000mOPERA0 = =3Bmiles06:54:11
VE7BDQVE7BDQ4000mOPERA0 = =3Bkms09:09:11
K3SIW-1K3SIW-1=0A= 4000mOPERA0 = =3Bmiles08:34:59
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Sent: Tuesday=2C December 10=2C 2013 11:52 PM
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To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A= =3B Bob Raide <= /div>=0A=
Subject: LF: OP65 late start for tonight-73 dial as =0A= usual...
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=0A=
OP/OPDS65 tonight as promised and WSPR 15 tomorrow nig= ht. =3B =0A= Thanks to W1VD and group for decodes =3Bto get me dialed in-should = be =0A= interesting tomorrow night for first time on WSPR 15 on 73 band full = =0A= night-73-Bob WG2XRS/4 [WG4XRS] NY
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Version:= =0A= 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6909 - Release Date: =0A= 12/10/13


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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: = =0A= 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6909 - Release Date: =0A= 12/10/13


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