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Subject: RE: LF: OPERA overload?
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Date: Fri=2C 20 Dec 2013 20:52:17 +0100
From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: OPERA overload?

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Am 20.12.2013 20:00=2C schrieb Bob Raide:=0A=
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As I said-band is fuller now than used to be!  I used to run a KW about=0A=
45 W ERP 100% time with WSPR2.  It would make occasional SV8 decodes=0A=
along with almost all western Europeans.  But since last year have been=0A=
told to cut back to 30% time on and still I heard murmurs like "he=0A=
already worked everybody 50 times over  he needs more"?!!!  I would=0A=
tell Jay and Jay told me keep operating but run 25-30% time on-that=0A=
that was fair. =20
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Yes=2C that OK i think. 100% is a bit hard :-) I did TX 100% with my=0A=
indoor loop and 100 uW ERP but that is a different thing :-)
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  It's OK-I can understand that and yes am sure is same=0A=
with you.  You operate 50% on WSPR and it is fortunate that the 50%=0A=
falls always on same quarter hour.  Otherwise there is many nights no=0A=
one else on to give sigs for T/A.
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I have to say=2C probably like you=2C worked most everything on 500 band=0A=
and if go there run at reduced time on or more to QRP.  We have plenty=0A=
else going on [new LF-VLF-etc] so works out for everybody just fine-Bob
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RR.
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But even if you "worked" everybody 50 times=2C there will be a newcomer=2C=
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somewhere=2C maybe with a poor RX antenna in the first stage and then=0A=
this newcomer will be most grateful for your signal and he will be=0A=
motivated to build a better RX antenna so that he can even receive the=0A=
weaker stations. That's the thing!=20
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There are enough OMs who will listen on 630m with a short HF antenna=0A=
for the first time. If there were no signals=2C they would say the band=0A=
is dead=2C maybe.=20
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And there are several LF amateurs who do the effort to maximise their=0A=
RX performance just to receive signals like yours=2C over several 1000km.
 Yes=2C Stefan there can and usually is new stations popping up that are lo=
oking for T/A decode.  If you are QRP you may miss him as he starting out c=
ould just be using 40 or 80 m dipole to RX-no decode for QRP signal.  So we=
 should occasionally get on 472 band and run reduced time  to get and keep =
these newbies coming back.  I look many nights on 630M and couple dozen T/A=
 receivers and nobody this side poking enough signal through for them to de=
code!Reduce time under 40 % but keep that "Fire to the wire" OM-73=2C Bob =
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  <div dir=3D"ltr">Stefan=3B<br>=0A=
As I said-band is fuller now than used to be!&nbsp=3B I used to run a KW ab=
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45 W ERP 100% time with WSPR2.&nbsp=3B It would make occasional SV8 decodes=
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along with almost all western Europeans.&nbsp=3B But since last year have b=
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told to cut back to 30% time on and still I heard murmurs&nbsp=3Blike "he=
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already worked everybody 50 times over&nbsp=3B he needs more"?!!!&nbsp=3B I=
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tell Jay and Jay told me keep operating but run 25-30% time on-that=0A=
that was fair.&nbsp=3B <br>=0A=
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Yes=2C that OK i think. 100% is a bit hard :-) I did TX 100% with my=0A=
indoor loop and 100 uW ERP but that is a different thing :-)<br>=0A=
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  <div dir=3D"ltr">It's OK-I can understand that and yes am sure is same=0A=
with you.&nbsp=3B You operate 50% on WSPR and it is fortunate that the 50%=
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falls always on same quarter hour.&nbsp=3B Otherwise there is many nights n=
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I have to say=2C probably like you=2C worked most everything on 500 band=0A=
and if go there run&nbsp=3Bat reduced time on or more to QRP.&nbsp=3B We ha=
ve plenty=0A=
else going on [new LF-VLF-etc] so works out for everybody just fine-Bob<br>=
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RR.<br>=0A=
But even if you "worked" everybody 50 times=2C there will be a newcomer=2C=
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somewhere=2C maybe with a poor RX antenna in the first stage and then=0A=
this newcomer will be most grateful for your signal and he will be=0A=
motivated to build a better RX antenna so that he can even receive the=0A=
weaker stations. That's the thing! <br>=0A=
There are enough OMs who will listen on 630m with a short HF antenna=0A=
for the first time. If there were no signals=2C they would say the band=0A=
is dead=2C maybe. <br>=0A=
And there are several LF amateurs who do the effort to maximise their=0A=
RX performance just to receive signals like yours=2C over several 1000km.<b=
r></div><div>&nbsp=3B</div><div>Yes=2C Stefan there can and usually is new =
stations popping up that are looking for T/A decode.&nbsp=3B If you are QRP=
 you may miss him as he starting out could just be using 40 or 80 m dipole =
to RX-no decode for QRP signal.&nbsp=3B So we should occasionally get on 47=
2 band and run reduced time&nbsp=3B to get and keep these newbies coming ba=
ck.&nbsp=3B I look many nights on 630M and couple dozen T/A receivers and n=
obody this side poking enough signal through for them to decode!</div><div>=
Reduce time under 40&nbsp=3B% but keep that "Fire to the wire" OM-73=2C Bob=
&nbsp=3B <br>=0A=
73=2C Stefan<br>=0A=
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