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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Wolf, VLF That sounds good! Let us see some images then, and the schematic. Meanwhile my VLF PA is ready to go,coherent keying should be possible now. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20131229_222857.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20131229_222959.jpg [...] Content analysis details: (-2.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 49f0f587e44d6711c57b8a4e950ba850 Subject: Re: LF: MF PA and VLF... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2429 Hello Wolf, VLF That sounds good! Let us see some images then, and the schematic. Meanwhile my VLF PA is ready to go,coherent keying should be possible now. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20131229_222857.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/20131229_222959.jpg I saw the IR2110 has a schmitt trigger input for the shutdown pin, so i can key this input with an analog circuit, this one: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/PTTnew.jpg And i want to use this for the VOX: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/VLF/VOXvlf.jpg Seems we're all soldering the whole day, Clemens too, hopefully (10 days left!). 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 29.12.2013 19:39, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: > Hi Stefan, >> Hi Wolf, >> >> What type of FETs are you using? The standard IRFPs? Many of them >> have internal Z diodes, so no addional RC network or Z idode is >> needed. The losses are there anyway, of course. >> > I'm using HUF 75343 P3 : 75 A, 55 V, 9 mOhm RDs on, and a hefty gate > input capacitance. > Just for historic reasons (on LF), and because I still have a tube > with over a dozen of them. > But the TC4452 has sufficient driving power to switch them rapidly > enough, even at 470 kHz (and presumably more). > > For the DC modulator (with 0.1 V ... 13 V output, depending on the PWM > duty cycle), there is another HUF 75343, and one IRF 4905, working > together as a complementary push-pull stage at 100 kHz with a PWM DC > of "almost" zero (due to the limited speed of the comparator + driver) > to 100 percent. After a simple choke, and a few microfarads (ceramic), > this provides the 0... 13 Volts for the MF final stage. > In case of mismatch or excessive drain current (actually measured as > source current in the PA), the PWM DC is gradually reduced in a > control loop... and the control loop design turned out quite tricky, > because the loop gain depends on the load, and the loop has a dead > time (due to the 100 kHz switching-mode modulator) which can cause the > loop to oscillate under certain conditions. This is actually the > reason why the PA is not "on air" yet... > > Cheers, > Wolf .