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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Wolf, Domenico, Jim, Am 05.12.2013 19:48, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: > Hi Domenico, > > There are a few configurations available in SL itself (in the 'Quick > Settings' menu under 'Slow Morse Reception / QRSS', and on Stefan's > (or was it Markus' ?) site. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 78d05de8a7db6bc9dc86a4eec49da9b7 Subject: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010303080009020306040307" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2091 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010303080009020306040307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id rB5JYBYc031533 Hi Wolf, Domenico, Jim, Am 05.12.2013 19:48, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: > Hi Domenico, > > There are a few configurations available in SL itself (in the 'Quick=20 > Settings' menu under 'Slow Morse Reception / QRSS', and on Stefan's=20 > (or was it Markus' ?) site. It was Markus' site. I'm still using V2.76b18 which works fine for me=20 since years. So my config files are not up to date, maybe, for the=20 latest SL version. Furthermore it is necessary to make several=20 adjustments to make the settings working on the new RX site. Thus i=20 think it may be better to provide e.g. a Teamviewer (temporal) link for=20 remote access for the helping person to the running VLF PC to make=20 individual adjustements. About the grabber upload, i would also recommend dropbox, which works=20 fine for several grabbers worldwide. 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Quite important (for FFT frequency bin widths in the milli- or=20 > microhertz range) is the continuous calibration of the sampling rate,=20 > because with a normal off-the-self soundcard the sampling rate is not=20 > stable enough, resulting in the signal energy being spread across=20 > several FFT bins. There are some notes on the possible calibration /=20 > drift compensation options in the help system. For details, I suggest=20 > to discuss the subject in the spectrum lab user group at yahoo. > > To run a grabber, you will need a command-line-driven FTP utility, or=20 > some other tool which periodically uploads the screenshots to a=20 > website / dropbox / etc . There is no FTP client built inside SL. > > Best regards, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > > Am 04.12.2013 15:58, schrieb STEM - Putignano (BA): >> Hi all DR OM >> >> i want to test this band and i'm looking to activate a grabber.=20 >> Someone of you can provide me a suitable *.usr* file for Spectrum Lab=20 >> for a 9k grabber ? >> I have already downloaded the sw and i want to say a big thanks to=20 >> DL9YHF for his super job. >> >> 73, Domenico/iz7slz >> >> >> >> On 12/3/2013 5:40 PM, uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de wrote: >>> >>> Hi Graham, Stefan and Markus, >>> >>> sri, the TX is still off. Too wet here around >>> >>> Yes, Stefan, your grabber rcvd the emissions completely. >>> >>> Graham, I think you mean my equipment. It=92s a resonant Marconi=20 >>> design excited by a field winding totally isolated from it. It is=20 >>> tuned by moving one coil into the other or vv. Makes abt 3,5km coil=20 >>> wire, 17m vertical and 300m top wire sloping down to abt 10m. All=20 >>> 1,7mm Litze. >>> >>> GL >>> Uwe/dj8wx jo43sv >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >>> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Gesendet: 03.12.2013 00:14 >>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Betreff: Re: Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >>> >>> Uwe, >>> Do you have any info on the tuner/matching system ? >>> Tnx -G, >>> >>> *From:* uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de >>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:30 PM >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> the TX was off from 1348UTC until 1534UTC. I had to repair the antenn= a. >>> >>> One of the top load wires came down. The ribbon behind the isolator=20 >>> changed to coal >>> >>> (corona effect during rain periods). >>> >>> Tks for reports. >>> >>> Sri for the QRM, Markus. >>> >>> GL >>> >>> Uwe/dj8wx jo43sv >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >>> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Gesendet: 01.12.2013 14:12 >>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Betreff: Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >>> >>> Hi Uwe, >>> no luck here so far. The primary reason seems to be a slightly=20 >>> unstable QRM line centered on 8970.3 Hz, probably one of many=20 >>> emitted by the railway line 400 m away (see lower part of grabber=20 >>> window). For me, eg. 0.2 Hz lower would be a clear frequency. But as=20 >>> QSY from your side would imply reparking all the other grabbers, I=20 >>> guess I'll just have to live with it for the time being. Will keep=20 >>> on trying anyway... >>> Best 73, >>> Markus (DF6NM) >>> >>> *From:* Markus Vester >>> *Sent:* Friday, November 29, 2013 1:37 PM >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz >>> >>> The DARC homepage server and ftp access procedure have recently been=20 >>> modified. I've restarted the temporary VLF grabber at >>> http://www.df6nm.darc.de/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm >>> Good luck! >>> 73, Markus (DF6NM) >>> *From:* uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de >>> *Sent:* Friday, November 29, 2013 12:04 PM >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz >>> >>> Hi Markus, Jim, Laurence and Eddie, >>> >>> on the air agn since 1043UTC. it will stay so the coming hours.=20 >>> tomorrow the same procedure as today. >>> >>> mom it is raining. >>> >>> yes, Markus, it is the same ant and the same pwr (a new DJ 4kW-PA,=20 >>> output reduced to 500W). and no, I don=92t know what it is at -38mHz.= =20 >>> Paul will know, I guess.what abt ur grabber? new URL? >>> >>> GL >>> Uwe/dj8wx jo43sv >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >>> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Gesendet: 29.11.2013 10:16 >>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Betreff: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= --- >>> >>> Wonderful news Uwe >>> >>> I had to abandon the attempt to find you last night as my storage=20 >>> battery failed. :-( >>> >>> This morning using Solar Power my RX is just up and producing the=20 >>> first display. >>> >>> I assume you are still on as I have peak at 9870.022Hz. In 424uhz,=20 >>> the 47uhz window is not ready yet. >>> >>> http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/vlfgrabber.htm >>> >>> Now for some battery work down in a cold shed so i can continue=20 >>> after dark. >>> >>> 73 Eddie G3ZJO >>> >>> On 28/11/2013 18:37, uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de wrote: >>>> >>>> On the air agn. Pse see >>>> >>>> http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=3D1385658000&b=3D080&s=3Dsp=20 >>>> >>>> >>>> output abt 500Wrms into 300m wire (L shape, tops sloping dwn from=20 >>>> 17m to 10m). >>>> >>>> GL >>>> >>>> Uwe/dj8wx jo43sv >>>> >>> >> > --------------010303080009020306040307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id rB5JYBYc031533 Hi Wolf, Domenico, Jim,

Am 05.12.2013 19:48, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf:
Hi Domenico,

There are a few configurations available in SL itself (in the 'Quick Settings' menu under 'Slow Morse Reception / QRSS', and on Stefan's (or was it Markus' ?) site.

It was Markus' site. I'm still using V2.76b18 which works fine for me since years. So my config files are not up to date, maybe, for the latest SL version. Furthermore it is necessary to make several adjustments to make the settings working on the new RX site. Thus i think it may be better to provide e.g. a Teamviewer (temporal) link for remote access for the helping person to the running VLF PC to make individual adjustements.

About the grabber upload, i would also recommend dropbox, which works fine for several grabbers worldwide.

73, Stefan/DK7FC



Quite important (for FFT frequency bin widths in the milli- or microhertz range) is the continuous calibration of the sampling rate, because with a normal off-the-self soundcard the sampling rate is not stable enough, resulting in the signal energy being spread across several FFT bins. There are some notes on the possible calibration / drift compensation options in the help system. For details, I suggest to discuss the subject in the spectrum lab user group at yahoo.

To run a grabber, you will need a command-line-driven FTP utility, or some other tool which periodically uploads the screenshots to a website / dropbox / etc . There is no FTP client built inside SL.

Best regards,
=A0=A0 Wolf=A0 DL4YHF .


Am 04.12.2013 15:58, schrieb STEM - Putignano (BA):
Hi all DR OM

i want to test this band and i'm looking to activate a grabber. Someone of you can provide me a suitable .usr file for Spectrum Lab for a 9k grabber ?
I have already downloaded the sw and i want to say a big thanks to DL9YHF for his super job.

73, Domenico/iz7slz



On 12/3/2013 5:40 PM, uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de wrote:
= sri, the TX is still off. Too wet here around

Yes, Stefan, your grabber rcvd the emissions completely.

Graham, I think you mean my equipment. It=92s a resonant Marconi design excited by a field winding totally isolated from it. It is tuned by moving one coil into the other or vv. Makes abt 3,5km coil wire, 17m vertical and 300m top wire sloping down to abt 10m. All 1,7mm Litze.

GL
Uwe/dj8wx jo43sv


Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
Gesendet: 03.12.2013 00:14
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
Betreff: Re: Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz

Uwe,
=A0
Do=A0 you=A0 have=A0 any=A0=A0 info=A0 on the=A0 tuner/matchin= g=A0 system ?
=A0
Tnx -G,

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz

rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
Gesendet: 01.12.2013 14:12
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
Betreff: Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz

Hi Uwe, <= /span>
=A0=
no=A0luck here so far. The primary reason seems to be a slightly unstable QRM line=A0centered on 8970.3 Hz, probably one of many emitted by the railway line 400 m away (see=A0lower part of grabber window). For me, eg. 0.2 Hz lower would be a clear frequency. But=A0as QSY from your side would imply reparking all the other grabbers, I guess I'll just have to live with it for the time being. Will keep on trying anyway...
=A0=
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz

The DARC homepage server and ftp access procedure have recently been modified. I've=A0restar= ted the temporary VLF grabber at
=A0=
Good luck!
73, Markus (DF6NM)<= br>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz

rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
Gesendet: 29.11.2013 10:16
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g
Betreff: Re: LF: 8970,022Hz

Wonderful news Uwe

I had to abandon the attempt to find you last night as my storage battery failed.=A0 :-(

This morning using Solar Power my RX is just up and producing the first display.

I assume you are still on as I have peak at 9870.022Hz. In 424uhz, the 47uhz window is not ready yet.

=A0http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/vlfgrabber= .htm

Now for some battery work down in a cold shed=A0 so i can continue after dark.

73 Eddie G3ZJO

On 28/11/2013 18:37, uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de wrote:
http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=3D1385658000&b=3D= 080&s=3Dsp

output abt 500Wrms into 300m wire (L shape, tops sloping dwn from 17m to 10m).

GL

Uwe/dj8wx jo43sv




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