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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Most interesting Bob, Considering Dst indices and your reports for the last six weeks, is it safe to say that -50 or greater Dst means some bad days in this band, but benign Dsts are only a fair indicator of potentially good conditions (Dst looked good from mid-November through 6 December, for example)? I remember some appreciated counsel from the group in this regard, back in October. Does anyone have a recommendation on a next-best predictive (aiding) metric for propagation quality in this part of the spectrum? Flares? Proton flux? Preferred site for accessing such data? 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_217A_01CEFA13.035A1140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 757 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_217A_01CEFA13.035A1140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most interesting Bob, Considering Dst indices and your reports for the last six weeks, is it safe to say that -50 or greater Dst means some bad days in this band, but benign Dsts are only a fair indicator of potentially good conditions (Dst looked good from mid-November through 6 December, for example)? I remember some appreciated counsel from the group in this regard, back in October. Does anyone have a recommendation on a next-best predictive (aiding) metric for propagation quality in this part of the spectrum? Flares? Proton flux? Preferred site for accessing such data? Quite a transition (of signal strength) on Hartmut's grabber, I'd really like to know what might have caused that. Thanks for some really interesting data Bob, Hartmut et al. 73, Jim AA5BW From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Bob Raide Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:17 PM To: h-wolff@gmx.de; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Bob Raide Subject: LF: Hartmut Wolff's grabber... Was beginning to look like a "dead" night coming up on 73 band. Up till 0045, that is, when suddenly decodes began to appear. Starting in transmitting WSPR 15 at 2200 this evening no decodes appeared until 0045. I went to Hartmut's grabber and the reason was obvious. A signal emerged from nothing to what appeared to be a decodable one. Been that way all evening with usual mild fading. Activity on 500 also seemed to pick-up and Stefan was solid on 136 DFCW at that time onward. It's what I find makes these longer waves interesting, to say the least-Bob, WG2XRS/4 [WG4XRS for short on digi modes] NY ------=_NextPart_000_217A_01CEFA13.035A1140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Most interesting Bob,

 

Considering Dst indices and your reports for the last six weeks, is = it safe to say that -50 or greater Dst means some bad days in this band, = but benign Dsts are only a fair indicator of potentially good conditions = (Dst looked good from mid-November through 6 December, for example)? I = remember some appreciated counsel from the group in this regard, back in = October. Does anyone have a recommendation on a next-best predictive = (aiding) metric for propagation quality in this part of the spectrum? = Flares? Proton flux? Preferred site for accessing such = data?

 

Quite a transition (of signal strength) on Hartmut’s grabber, = I’d really like to know what might have caused that. Thanks for = some really interesting data Bob, Hartmut et al.

 

73,

 

Jim AA5BW

 

From:= = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Bob = Raide
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:17 PM
To: = h-wolff@gmx.de; rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Bob = Raide
Subject: LF: Hartmut Wolff's = grabber...

 

Was beginning to look like = a "dead" night coming up on 73 band.  Up till 0045, that = is, when suddenly decodes began to appear.  Starting in = transmitting WSPR 15 at 2200 this evening no decodes appeared until = 0045.  I went to Hartmut's grabber and the reason was = obvious.  A signal emerged from nothing to what appeared to = be a decodable one.  Been that way all evening with usual mild = fading.
Activity on 500 also seemed to pick-up and Stefan was solid = on 136 DFCW at that time onward.
It's what I find makes these longer = waves interesting, to say the least-Bob, WG2XRS/4 [WG4XRS for short on = digi modes] NY

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