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Content preview: There are plenty of commercial data mode systems in use on the Ham bands that are locked and not publicised , from my experience , the locked systems seem to give a superior level of performance to the open code versions , pactor-4 being a good example , using modern ss techniques achieves high data/power ratio , but missing is the cdma layer that would enhance b/w user efficiency , but that exists in another locked data mode , which is free [...] Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.3 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-Scan-Signature: 341e129709b1f644123d78a85f486843 Subject: Re: LF: RE: [O_P_E_R_A_] Opera upgrades for 2014 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F7_01CF0343.CEE39FF0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=GAPPY_SUBJECT,HTML_70_80, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2676 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F7_01CF0343.CEE39FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are plenty of commercial data mode systems in use on the = Ham bands that are locked and not publicised , from my experience , = the locked systems seem to give a superior level of performance to = the open code versions , pactor-4 being a good example , using = modern ss techniques achieves high data/power ratio , but missing = is the cdma layer that would enhance b/w user efficiency , but = that exists in another locked data mode , which is free=20 So where /what is the problem ? G,=20 From: wolf_dl4yhf=20 Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 7:41 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: RE: [O_P_E_R_A_] Opera upgrades for 2014 Thanks for forwarding the message Bob - so I won't spend any effort in = implementing Opera myself if Markus's DS algorithm is really embedded in = the Ros-software. Despite the fact that I don't like, and will not use, the original Opera = software myself as long as its author makes such a secret of it, leaving = it to others to reverse-engineer the algorithms. Cheers, Wolf . Am 27.12.2013 19:31, schrieb Bob Raide: Trevor and all; Especially #1!!! If that alone could be accomplished the rest later = would do just fine. Bob, WG2XRS/4-4000 meters, WE2XEB-2200 meters, = WE2XGR/6-630/600 meters-W2ZM... =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- To: O_P_E_R_A_@yahoogroups.com CC: tsmithers@cix.co.uk From: tsmithers@cix.co.uk Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:48:00 +0000 Subject: [O_P_E_R_A_] Opera upgrades for 2014 =20 A few thoughts for Opera enhancements VLF to 160m (1) Deep Search Detector built in to existing Opera system with = ability to run alongside existing=20 Op decoders and report directly to PSK reporter=20 (2) Reinstate the dual receive function without having to open = multiple instances of the software. (3) Dynamically resizable screen or replace the dials with led bar = type indicators - would make=20 the overall screen size a little smaller. (4) Option to "tear off" the waterfall to enable positioning on = another part of the monitor screen -=20 like wsprx for example. Trevor G0KTN __._,_.___Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a = New Topic Messages in this topic (1) =20 Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3=20 Visit Your Group=20 =20 Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest =95 Unsubscribe =95 Terms of Use = =95 Send us Feedback=20 . =20 __,_._,___ ------=_NextPart_000_00F7_01CF0343.CEE39FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There  are plenty of  commercial  data  = mode =20 systems  in use  on the  Ham bands  that  are=20 locked  and not  publicised , from  my experience , = the =20 locked systems seem to  give a  superior level  of = performance=20  to the  open    code  versions , = pactor-4 =20 being a  good  example , using  modern  ss = techniques =20 achieves  high data/power  ratio , but  missing  is=20 the  cdma  layer that  would  enhance  = b/w  user=20 efficiency  , but  that  exists in another locked = data =20 mode , which is  free
 
So  where /what  is the  problem ?
 
G,

From: wolf_dl4yhf
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 7:41 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: RE: [O_P_E_R_A_] Opera upgrades for=20 2014

Thanks for forwarding the message Bob - so = I won't=20 spend any effort in implementing Opera myself if Markus's DS algorithm = is really=20 embedded in the Ros-software.
Despite the fact that I don't like, and = will=20 not use, the original Opera software myself as long as its author makes = such a=20 secret of it, leaving it to others to reverse-engineer the=20 algorithms.

Cheers,
  Wolf .

Am 27.12.2013 19:31, = schrieb=20 Bob Raide:
Trevor and all;
Especially #1!!!  If that alone = could=20 be accomplished the rest later would do just fine. Bob,=20 WG2XRS/4-4000 meters, WE2XEB-2200 meters, WE2XGR/6-630/600=20 meters-W2ZM...
 

To: O_P_E_R_A_@yahoogroups.com=
CC:=20 tsmithers@cix.co.uk
From: = tsmithers@cix.co.uk
Date: = Fri, 27 Dec=20 2013 16:48:00 +0000
Subject: [O_P_E_R_A_] Opera upgrades for=20 2014

 =20
A few thoughts for Opera enhancements VLF to=20 160m

(1) Deep Search Detector built in to existing Opera system = with=20 ability to run alongside existing
Op decoders and report directly = to PSK=20 reporter

(2) Reinstate the dual receive function without = having to=20 open multiple instances of the software.

(3) Dynamically = resizable=20 screen or replace the dials with led bar type indicators - would make =
the=20 overall screen size a little smaller.

(4) Option to "tear off" = the=20 waterfall to enable positioning on another part of the monitor screen = -=20
like wsprx for example.

Trevor G0KTN


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