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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Markus, LF! Yes, i saw these 3 dashes (which are "dits" on that QRG and time) in one line. And if they are from me, it must be the end of the 7. And i was transmitting the 7 just to that time. Did you place your grabber image overlay onto Edgar's image so it fits the 3 dashes or did you place it so that the time stamp fits to your time? 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And i was=20 transmitting the 7 just to that time. Did you place your grabber image overlay onto Edgar's image so it fits=20 the 3 dashes or did you place it so that the time stamp fits to your time= ? If "we" call this a valid ID and detection, then these *16833 km* are a=20 new #3 world record distance on 2200m! (according to=20 http://136.73.ru/h_qso/index.htm ) Do "we"? Would others agree/disagree? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 01.11.2013 20:11, schrieb Markus Vester: > Edgar, Stefan, > yes, I think it's there. On the Orford grabber around 15:40 UT, it=20 > looks like four dashes belonging to a "7" and the first dash from the=20 > following "F". Also later perhaps some more bright pixels on the same=20 > (dot) frequency (136171.89 on the RX scale, versus 136171.9625 Hz sent=20 > by Stefan). > http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26404526/edgar_orford_eu_131101_1800= _insert.png > The time of reception coincided with a period of good SNR from HGA22=20 > in Orford, whereas DCF39 happened to be in a fade. > Congratulations! Guess it's time for the two of you to open up a bottle= ! > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Stefan Sch=E4fer > *Sent:* Friday, November 01, 2013 6:39 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: Tasmania? > > LF, > > Is there a trace of my signal on that grabber? I can see something,=20 > very weak, and only if you know the frequency and what letter was sent=20 > to which time. But it is close to my QRG, a shift of maybe -35 mHz.=20 > The DFCW element length looks OK and the DFCW shift too. But VERY=20 > weak. Could it be right or am i dreaming? Can someone else see what i=20 > mean? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101251787/testIDC.html > Comments? > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Am 01.11.2013 14:47, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: >> BTW, Bob... >> >> ...did you ever try to leave a trace on the LF grabber of Edgar J.=20 >> Twining in Tasmania? We were trying this spring/fall period but, so=20 >> far, without success. I will make another attempt today though. >> The path your you would be that:=20 >> http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html?qth=3DFN12LQ&from=3Dqe37wk Not=20 >> impossible! A bit shorter than for me and even more hops on sea water=20 >> for you! >> Link to his garbber is:=20 >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101251787/testIDC.html >> A suitable mode would be DFCW-180 or QRSS-120. Suitable frequency=20 >> 136.173 kHz. Suitable time: -3...+2 hours arround your sunrise! >> Worth a try! >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------000905080606050703070103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Markus, LF!

Yes, i saw these 3 dashes (which are "dits" on that QRG and time) in one line. And if they are from me, it must be the end of the 7. And i was transmitting the 7 just to that time.
Did you place your grabber image overlay onto Edgar's image so it fits the 3 dashes or did you place it so that the time stamp fits to your time?

If "we" call this a valid ID and detection, then these 16833 km are a new #3 world record distance on 2200m! (according to http://136.73.ru/h_qso/index.htm )
Do "we"? Would others agree/disagree?

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 01.11.2013 20:11, schrieb Markus Vester:
Edgar, Stefan,
 
yes, I think it's there. On the Orford grabber around 15:40 UT, it looks like four dashes belonging to a "7" and the first dash from the following "F". Also later perhaps some more bright pixels on the same (dot) frequency (136171.89 on the RX scale, versus 136171.9625 Hz sent by Stefan).
 
 
The time of reception coincided with a period of good SNR from HGA22 in Orford, whereas DCF39 happened to be in a fade.
 
Congratulations! Guess it's time for the two of you to open up a bottle!
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Tasmania?

LF,

Is there a trace of my signal on that grabber? I can see something, very weak, and only if you know the frequency and what letter was sent to which time. But it is close to my QRG, a shift of maybe -35 mHz. The DFCW element length looks OK and the DFCW shift too. But VERY weak. Could it be right or am i dreaming? Can someone else see what i mean? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101251787/testIDC.html
Comments?

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 01.11.2013 14:47, schrieb Stefan Schäfer:
BTW, Bob...

...did you ever try to leave a trace on the LF grabber of Edgar J. Twining in Tasmania? We were trying this spring/fall period but, so far, without success. I will make another attempt today though.
The path your you would be that: http://no.nonsense.ee/qth/map.html?qth=FN12LQ&from=qe37wk Not impossible! A bit shorter than for me and even more hops on sea water for you!
Link to his garbber is: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/101251787/testIDC.html
A suitable mode would be DFCW-180 or QRSS-120. Suitable frequency 136.173 kHz. Suitable time: -3...+2 hours arround your sunrise!
Worth a try!

73, Stefan/DK7FC
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