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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mike, I have a mix of practical, theoretical and scientific knowledge on this subject, but would not consider myself a leading expert. Judging from the questions that you listed and the proposed rough-science experiment (I have performed such experiments and the associated modeling and analyses), I can probably provide some or most of what BBC would want. There are few open-literature publications covering this subject, but I happen to have some of them, and BBC might appreciate these for citation purposes. 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Judging from = the questions that you listed and the proposed rough-science experiment (I = have performed such experiments and the associated modeling and analyses), I = can probably provide some or most of what BBC would want. There are few open-literature publications covering this subject, but I happen to have some of them, and BBC might appreciate these for citation purposes. 73, Jim AA5BW -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Mike Dennison Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 10:20 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Subject: LF: Submarine comms I have received the following from the BBC. Does any member of this = group have direct practical or theoretical knowledge of VLF submarine comms = and would be able to help? Please reply direct to me at: mike.dennison =3Dat=3D ntlworld.com "BBC Coast is making a short film about submarines. "As part of the piece we would like to explain how communications = worked. How were messages sent from shore to the submarine? "I know you specialise in low frequencies, and I=B4d very much like to = have a chat with you about the principles involved in undersea comms. Specifically about VLF ( very low frequency) transmissions. "We also hope to set up a `rough science=B4 experiment which would help explain how/ why VLF is able to penetrate water. "Unfortunately we are up against a tight deadline, and need to film the = item during the first week of December." Thanks MIke, G3XDV