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Content preview: Hi Alan Box ? what's that ! open plan this end , the inv L is top loaded and atu voltages are quite low , but it seem the connection to the insulator has fatigued , the clamp is still there , but the wires have parted , there was no dip , swinging the vario or cap , then no change with the Ae connected or not , sure sign something was wrong ! 20 watts is fine for the moment , there is a cable tie jammed in the select relay , to keep the tuner out of cct [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.68 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 7117f452ff11af9bac782a916713f0d7 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Automatic HF tuner loading 5 feet of wire Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BA_01CEC2E9.A70E16D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2729 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01CEC2E9.A70E16D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alan=20 Box ? what's that ! open plan this end , the inv L is top loaded = and atu voltages are quite low , but it seem the connection = to the insulator has fatigued , the clamp is still there , but the = wires have parted , there was no dip , swinging the vario or = cap , then no change with the Ae connected or not , sure sign = something was wrong ! 20 watts is fine for the moment , there is = a cable tie jammed in the select relay , to keep the tuner out of = cct=20 The HF tuner has been loading the wire to the insulator , that's = a problem when you only have a lamp to show its found a resolve = , rx was ok , just a bit down on Tx , not the first time its = happened over the years , but the scramble over the roof, with = cutters and spanner seems to be getting more demanding than it = used to be 20 years ago=20 Used to have a tuner than unsoldered itself when running high = power on 80 , run down to the shed to find the major bits had = parted company , but that was in the good old days when you could = work nearly to the west coast usa on ssb at some small hour in = the morning , now all we get is down under ! 73-G,=20 RW3ADB VK3KCX 80m OPERA 14461 kms 17:47:55=20 From: Alan Melia=20 Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:23 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: Automatic HF tuner loading 5 feet of wire er G. You might want to check for arcing, tracking, or melting within = the box....LF/MF generates pretty high voltages :-)) Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:15 PM Subject: LF: Automatic HF tuner loading 5 feet of wire After finding the HF tuner was loading 5 feet of wire + coil = to the base of the insulator , and the main Ae was not actually = connected =20 This is 20 watts , end fed to the 40 ft vertical , no top = loading , -14dB / -15 dB s/n , but lots of volts at the feed = point .. 100% tx at the moment =20 G,=20 G0NBD PA3ABK 600m OPERA 553 kms 19:33:08=20 IZ7SLZ SV8RV-3 600m OPERA 470 kms 19:14:41=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00BA_01CEC2E9.A70E16D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Alan
 
Box ? what's  that  !  open plan this  = end  ,=20 the  inv L is top  loaded and  atu  voltages  = are =20 quite  low   , but  it  seem the  = connection =20 to the  insulator  has fatigued , the  clamp  is = still =20 there  , but the  wires  have  parted  , = there =20 was  no  dip  , swinging  the  vario  or = cap ,=20 then  no  change with the  Ae  connected  = or =20 not  , sure  sign  something  was  wrong = ! =20 20  watts  is fine  for  the  moment , there is = a =20 cable tie  jammed in the  select  relay , to  keep = the =20 tuner out of cct
 
The  HF tuner  has  been loading  = the  wire=20 to the  insulator , that's  a  problem  when = you =20 only  have a  lamp to  show  its  found a  = resolve , rx  was ok , just a  bit  down on  Tx = , not=20 the  first  time  its happened  over the  = years  ,=20 but the  scramble  over the  roof, with  = cutters =20 and  spanner   seems  to  be  getting  = more =20 demanding  than it  used to be 20 years  ago
 
Used  to  have  a tuner  than  = unsoldered =20 itself  when  running   high power on 80 , run = down  to=20 the  shed to  find  the  major  bits had =20 parted  company , but that  was in the  good  old = days =20 when you  could  work  nearly to the  west  = coast usa=20  on ssb at some  small  hour  in the  morning , = now=20 all  we get is  down under !
 
73-G,
 


RW3ADB VK3KCX 80m OPERA 14461 kms 17:47:55
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From: Alan Melia =
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:23 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: Re: Automatic HF tuner loading 5 feet of=20 wire

er G.    You might want = to check for=20 arcing, tracking, or melting within the box....LF/MF generates pretty = high=20 voltages  :-))
 
Alan
G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 = 9:15=20 PM
Subject: LF: Automatic HF tuner = loading 5=20 feet of wire

After finding  the  HF tuner  was =20 loading  5  feet  of wire  + coil to  = the =20 base of the  insulator , and the  main Ae  was  = not =20 actually  connected 
 
This is  20  watts , end  fed  to =20 the  40  ft vertical , no  top  loading , -14dB = / =20 -15 dB  s/n ,  but lots of  volts  at the  = feed =20 point ..
 
100% tx  at the  moment 
 
G,
 
 
G0NBD PA3ABK 600m OPERA 553 kms 19:33:08
IZ7SLZ SV8RV-3 600m OPERA 470 kms 19:14:41
 
 
 
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