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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mike-et all; Hartmut and Markus chose the freq. At that time it appeared as good as could be found. If a better one is available to everyone I can move to it without a problem [licensed for 68-76 kHz]. It should be such a freq that allows a couple other spots no more than a Hz apart for Dex and John Andrews and maybe Jay and Warren who may be coming on. Artifacts from various services has been a problem. 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At that time it appeared as good as cou= ld be found. If a better one is available to everyone I can move to it with= out a problem [licensed for 68-76 kHz]. It should be such a freq that allo= ws a couple other spots no more than a Hz apart for Dex and John Andrews an= d maybe Jay and Warren who may be coming on. Artifacts from various services has been a problem. Bob =20 =20 > From: mike.dennison@ntlworld.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sun=2C 13 Oct 2013 14:35:00 +0100 > Subject: LF: 74kHz frequency >=20 > I wonder why the current working frequency of 74=2C5495kHz was chosen?=20 > According to my receive system this is still on the edge of the noise=20 > sidebands from DCF77=2C and some 3dB S/N could be gained by operating=20 > from 1kHz to 3kHz further LF. Is this just my receiver/antenna=20 > (perhaps my antenna has gone HF as the leaves fall off the trees)=2C or=20 > do others see this? >=20 > 3dB doesn't sound much but is a lot with a marginal QRSS signal. >=20 > Any comments from other Eu receive stations? >=20 > Mike > =3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 = --_4b4f4af3-e062-4937-80b3-b07962e5ee9e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike-et all=3B
Hartmut and Ma= rkus chose the freq. =3B At that time it appeared as good as could be f= ound. If a better one is available to everyone I can move to it without a p= roblem [licensed for 68-76 kHz]. =3B It should be such a freq that allo= ws a couple other spots no more than a Hz apart for Dex and John Andrews an= d maybe Jay and Warren who may be coming on.
Artifacts from various serv= ices has been a problem.
Bob =3B

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>=3B Fro= m: mike.dennison@ntlworld.com
>=3B To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>=3B Date: Sun=2C 13 Oct 2013 14:35:00 +0100
>=3B Subject: LF: 74kH= z frequency
>=3B
>=3B I wonder why the current working frequency= of 74=2C5495kHz was chosen?
>=3B According to my receive system this= is still on the edge of the noise
>=3B sidebands from DCF77=2C and s= ome 3dB S/N could be gained by operating
>=3B from 1kHz to 3kHz furth= er LF. Is this just my receiver/antenna
>=3B (perhaps my antenna has = gone HF as the leaves fall off the trees)=2C or
>=3B do others see th= is?
>=3B
>=3B 3dB doesn't sound much but is a lot with a margina= l QRSS signal.
>=3B
>=3B Any comments from other Eu receive stat= ions?
>=3B
>=3B Mike
>=3B =3D=3D=3D=3D
>=3B
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