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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mike; 3DB would be fantastic! I believe Dex can move as easily as I can. Our authorization is for 68-76 so there is plenty of room to try and find a better channel for us. I can and have transmitted from the band edge limits and am ready to go-Bob [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.34 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rjraide[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 40cd937fc1c5e6338b07d288cd09d087 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b0f4e8b0-fc64-4fc9-b3b7-02d7aa3cad67_" Subject: RE: LF: 74.5493 instead...(1of2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1383 --_b0f4e8b0-fc64-4fc9-b3b7-02d7aa3cad67_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike=3B 3DB would be fantastic! I believe Dex can move as easily as I can. Our au= thorization is for 68-76 so there is plenty of room to try and find a bette= r channel for us. I can and have transmitted from the band edge limits and= am ready to go-Bob =20 > From: mike.dennison@ntlworld.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Tue=2C 22 Oct 2013 17:24:21 +0100 > Subject: Re: LF: 74.5493 instead...(1of2) >=20 > Dex=2C glad to get confirmation that the late captures were of your=20 > sigs. The best I have seen so far is a readable 'X'=2C but otherwise=20 > tantalisingly below the threshold. >=20 > I believe we can get another 3dB by moving to a lower frequency. The=20 > one currently in use is in the skirts of the noise from DCF77 and=20 > this will probably affect the mainland Eu stations more than me. I=20 > was unsure whether the reduced noise a kHz or two lower was due to=20 > the resonance curve of my own antenna=2C and still need to do more work=20 > on this (rainy weather is stopping me at present). I have also tried=20 > to do an overnight wideband spectrum plot=2C but again have been=20 > thwarted by high static over the last few days. >=20 > If that 3dB improvement in SNR is possible then you should be easily=20 > readable on a good night. And the change in the oak trees will=20 > definitely help. >=20 > It's interesting stuff. I will publish the result of my noise tests=20 > as soon as I have good data. >=20 > 73 de Mike > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > > I've been running /5 from sundown to sunup. 200 watts leaving the > > shack. Perhaps the signal will improve when the oak trees under the > > top hat wires are bare. The leaves are just now beginning to fall. =20 > > Most of the several hundred feet of top hat wires run over a > > combination of oak and pine trees. I've often wondered if my antenna > > would be more efficient with more loading instead of having the top > > hat. I'll probably never know because it would be way to much work to > > find out. The antenna has been in use for 8 years. I may find out > > when the top hat wire fails because I doubt I'm now able to replace > > them. > >=20 > > Nice to at least see those traces Mike. > >=20 > > Dex > >=20 > > Bob Raide wrote: > > > Mike=3B > > > I can see that I have to stay on longer at least to 0600. You > > > haven't missed a night of good captures-QRN=2C poor conditions doesn'= t > > > stop you! Very consistent captures-good to see Dex "almost" > > > there-just gonna need a decent night with lower noise that should be > > > coming with the colder WX-Bob > > > =20 > > > > From: mike.dennison@ntlworld.com > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > Date: Mon=2C 21 Oct 2013 17:37:09 +0100 > > > > Subject: Re: LF: 74.5493 instead...(1of2) > > > > > > > > More good pictures attached from last night despite some heavy > > > > static. Still no complete call from Dex on 74.5485kHz=2C but plenty > > > > of traces again. > > > > > > > > Mike=2C G3XDV > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 = --_b0f4e8b0-fc64-4fc9-b3b7-02d7aa3cad67_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mike=3B
3DB would be fantasti= c! =3B I believe Dex can move as easily as I can. =3B Our authoriza= tion is for 68-76 so there is plenty of room to try and find =3Ba bette= r channel for us. =3B I can and have transmitted from the band edge lim= its and am ready to go-Bob
 =3B
>=3B From: mike.dennison@n= tlworld.com
>=3B To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>=3B Date: Tue= =2C 22 Oct 2013 17:24:21 +0100
>=3B Subject: Re: LF: 74.5493 instead..= .(1of2)
>=3B
>=3B Dex=2C glad to get confirmation that the late = captures were of your
>=3B sigs. The best I have seen so far is a rea= dable 'X'=2C but otherwise
>=3B tantalisingly below the threshold.>=3B
>=3B I believe we can get another 3dB by moving to a lower fr= equency. The
>=3B one currently in use is in the skirts of the noise = from DCF77 and
>=3B this will probably affect the mainland Eu station= s more than me. I
>=3B was unsure whether the reduced noise a kHz or = two lower was due to
>=3B the resonance curve of my own antenna=2C an= d still need to do more work
>=3B on this (rainy weather is stopping = me at present). I have also tried
>=3B to do an overnight wideband sp= ectrum plot=2C but again have been
>=3B thwarted by high static over = the last few days.
>=3B
>=3B If that 3dB improvement in SNR is p= ossible then you should be easily
>=3B readable on a good night. And = the change in the oak trees will
>=3B definitely help.
>=3B
= >=3B It's interesting stuff. I will publish the result of my noise tests =
>=3B as soon as I have good data.
>=3B
>=3B 73 de Mike
= >=3B =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=3B
>=3B >=3B I've been ru= nning /5 from sundown to sunup. 200 watts leaving the
>=3B >=3B sha= ck. Perhaps the signal will improve when the oak trees under the
>=3B= >=3B top hat wires are bare. The leaves are just now beginning to fall.=
>=3B >=3B Most of the several hundred feet of top hat wires run o= ver a
>=3B >=3B combination of oak and pine trees. I've often wonde= red if my antenna
>=3B >=3B would be more efficient with more loadin= g instead of having the top
>=3B >=3B hat. I'll probably never know= because it would be way to much work to
>=3B >=3B find out. The an= tenna has been in use for 8 years. I may find out
>=3B >=3B when th= e top hat wire fails because I doubt I'm now able to replace
>=3B >= =3B them.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Nice to at least see those tra= ces Mike.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Dex
>=3B >=3B
>= =3B >=3B Bob Raide wrote:
>=3B >=3B >=3B Mike=3B
>=3B >= =3B >=3B I can see that I have to stay on longer at least to 0600. You>=3B >=3B >=3B haven't missed a night of good captures-QRN=2C poor = conditions doesn't
>=3B >=3B >=3B stop you! Very consistent capt= ures-good to see Dex "almost"
>=3B >=3B >=3B there-just gonna need= a decent night with lower noise that should be
>=3B >=3B >=3B com= ing with the colder WX-Bob
>=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >= =3B >=3B From: mike.dennison@ntlworld.com
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B = To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B Date: Mon= =2C 21 Oct 2013 17:37:09 +0100
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B Subject: Re: = LF: 74.5493 instead...(1of2)
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B >=3B >=3B More good pictures attached from last night despite some = heavy
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B static. Still no complete call from De= x on 74.5485kHz=2C but plenty
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B of traces agai= n.
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B >=3B >=3B Mike=2C G3= XDV
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B
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