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From: "Stefan Schäfer" Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:08 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: WSPRX_08r3575 [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: d7fcd9b75df8d1b09ddef9df028bd9ae Subject: Re: LF: WSPRX_08r3575 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3326 The software reported 2 dB change ? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stefan Schäfer" Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:08 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: WSPRX_08r3575 > G > > 4X1RF and GW0EZY took a recording of my WSPR transmission and sent it to > me via dropbox, a wav file recorded in SpecLab. > > I run the recordings in an endless loop and produced a set of decodes, 5 > decodes for each setting, just to make sure that there is no random > difference in the S/N shown for the same settings. Mostly the S/N shown > was the same for a certain setting, maybe 1 of 5 differed by 1 dB. The > results were quite clear. I've done the test with strong signals (GW0EZY) > and weak signals (4X1RF). There average improvement was 2 dB, maybe a bit > more. > > 73, Stefan > > Am 03.10.2013 20:45, schrieb Graham: >> How did you measure the 2 dB Stefan ? >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Stefan Schäfer" >> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:47 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: WSPRX_08r3575 >> >>> Hi Tobias, >>> >>> Am 02.10.2013 16:19, schrieb Tobias DG3LV: >>>> Hi Stefan/LF ! >>>> >>>> Information on the SVN-server says, that there was a noise blanker >>>> added. >>> >>> Thanks for all the infos. >>> Finally :-) During the time he developed WSPR-15 we were in regular >>> email contact. To that time i made some tests with DF6NM's slow WSPR >>> version, tests with 4X1RF and GW0EZY and others. We found that the >>> SpecLab noise blanker in front of the WSPR input (using VAC) made a S/N >>> improvement of at least 2 dB. Obviously he anyway didn't include such a >>> tool (which is much more useful on LF/MF as on the HF bands i think) in >>> the previous versions. >>> >>> Now the question is if the new intenal NB is more efficient than an >>> external SpecLab NB. One could do a test running 4 WSPR-x instances, the >>> old one, with and without a SpecLab NB and then the new one, with and >>> without a SpecLab NB... If the new one without a SpecLab NB performs >>> best, then this would be really an improvement over the older version! >>> If i can find the time i will do such a test at night. >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> >