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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Jay, I wanted to give it a try tonite. First i wanted to use DF6NM's OPDS software which i would really prefer over the ROS-OP stuff. But then i found that the sndoutpt.exe creates a ramp in the audio tone. My FETs didn't like that at all, they made a crrrk at the beginning and end of each dash. This is because the audio passes a comparator which makes a clear hard keyed tone for the mixer which keys the IXDD414 anyway. FETs survived but it showed that i need to do hardware modifications if i want to use Markus' tool. In WSPR-15 it may be the same but then it is just 4 times per hour and in OP32 is is much more. 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First i wanted to use DF6NM's OPDS=20 software which i would really prefer over the ROS-OP stuff. But then i=20 found that the sndoutpt.exe creates a ramp in the audio tone. My FETs=20 didn't like that at all, they made a crrrk at the beginning and end of=20 each dash. This is because the audio passes a comparator which makes a=20 clear hard keyed tone for the mixer which keys the IXDD414 anyway. FETs=20 survived but it showed that i need to do hardware modifications if i=20 want to use Markus' tool. In WSPR-15 it may be the same but then it is just 4 times per hour and=20 in OP32 is is much more. Then i installed the standard Opera program which i find very annoying.=20 It is not even possible to select a TXD line of the RS232 which i=20 normally use for PTT. When using the standard program i'm generating the=20 tone with SpecLab (on the "LF TX PC") and key the PTT with the program=20 (on the "LF/MF RX/TX PC"). Didn't work :-/ Soldered arround to use RTS=20 instead. PTT was keyed when pressing the tune button and released when=20 pressing it again, as intended. But then, when pressing "Beacon", the=20 PTT was key down, permanent tone. Need a VOX or so... So i can do no OPDS tests tonite, sorry. 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: I'll continue with DFCW-90 now! Am 17.10.2013 18:00, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: > Stefan > > Wasn't expecting you to start transmitting OPDS today ... just a=20 > thought for the future. But if you want to, that's okay too. > > OPDS32 is capable of of decoding at about -50 dB s/n (relative to SSB=20 > bandwidth). > > Your call and grid is easily added at the receiving end. > > Jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer"=20 > > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:57 AM > Subject: Re: LF: T/A OPDS DK7FC > > > PS: Jay, Markus, > > What is the S/N performance of OPDS compared to WSPR-15 (apart from the > fact that the callsigns must be known in advance and that there is less > information into one sequence) ?? > > 73, Stefan > > Am 17.10.2013 16:55, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: >> Jay, >> >> Am 17.10.2013 14:36, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: >>> >>> Several stations on this end are now set up to receive OP Deep=20 >>> Search ... including Garry K3SIW in IL. Being that far inland is=20 >>> quite a disadvantage for T/A signal reception compared to 'coastal'=20 >>> stations. >> Garry got several WSPR-15 decodes of me last season, so i think he=20 >> could make it in OPDS as well. >>> >>> On my end I'm interested to see if it's possible to roll back the=20 >>> earliest T/A reception times (current best of about 2045Z mid=20 >>> season). There are probably other 'unknowns' waiting to be=20 >>> discovered along the way ;~) . >> OK, i can give it a try. Not sure if i can make it today arround 20=20 >> UTC but i will try. >> Am i already included in the OPDS list as a possible station? >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >