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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Am 09.10.2013 00:12, schrieb Markus Vester: > [...] > I have been following your experiments with interest. Looking at the > two grabbers, Stefan was sometimes visible in Moonah but not (or at > least not much) in Orford. Not sure whether that's due to some > intrinsic noise in the Orford setup (then you might end up making > things worse by adding in Orford data), or Stefan being weakened by > the extra distance (then Orford data would still be useful to > partially null QRN). Weakened by the extra distance of 27 km (+ 0.16 %) ?? :-) No i think i am weakened by some Q decrease of my loding coil and that building, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/20130913_161536.jpg , which is now built up in 30m distance to the antenna :-( Seems i will need a 3 phase PA (already thought about a H bridge out of STW25N95K3 :-) ) if i want to hold the level :-) Let us make a reference test (>=! 200 uV/m) when they finished the buildings and dismantled the cranes... Or, it is simply a worse propagation than last year?? 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Looking at the > two grabbers, Stefan was sometimes visible in Moonah but not (or at > least not much) in Orford. Not sure whether that's due to some > intrinsic noise in the Orford setup (then you might end up making > things worse by adding in Orford data), or Stefan being weakened by > the extra distance (then Orford data would still be useful to > partially null QRN). Weakened by the extra distance of 27 km (+ 0.16 %) ?? :-) No i think i am weakened by some Q decrease of my loding coil and that building, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/20130913_161536.jpg , which is now built up in 30m distance to the antenna :-( Seems i will need a 3 phase PA (already thought about a H bridge out of STW25N95K3 :-) ) if i want to hold the level :-) Let us make a reference test (>=! 200 uV/m) when they finished the buildings and dismantled the cranes... Or, it is simply a worse propagation than last year?? 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------050301000300000504080004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Am 09.10.2013 00:12, schrieb Markus Vester:
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I have been following your experiments with interest. Looking at the two grabbers, Stefan was sometimes visible in Moonah but not (or at least not much) in Orford. Not sure whether that's due to some intrinsic noise in the Orford setup (then you might end up making things worse by adding in Orford data), or Stefan being weakened by the extra distance (then Orford data would still be useful to partially null QRN).
Weakened by the extra distance of 27 km (+ 0.16 %) ?? :-)
No i think i am weakened by some Q decrease of my loding coil and that building, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/20130913_161536.jpg , which is now built up in 30m distance to the antenna :-(
Seems i will need a 3 phase PA (already thought about a H bridge out of STW25N95K3 :-) ) if i want to hold the level :-) Let us make a reference test (>=! 200 uV/m) when they finished the buildings and dismantled the cranes...
Or, it is simply a worse propagation than last year??

73, Stefan/DK7FC

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