Delivered-To: daveyxm@virginmedia.com Received: by 10.67.23.138 with SMTP id ia10csp241689pad; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.9.70 with SMTP id x6mr8330325wja.22.1380823954033; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 11:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com. [195.171.43.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id gd9si482725wic.69.1969.12.31.16.00.00; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 11:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) client-ip=195.171.43.25; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 195.171.43.25 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1VRmoz-0003np-VZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:36:17 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1VRmoz-0003ng-II for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:36:17 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1VRmox-0002Yw-CQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:36:16 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r93HaDJO009431 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:36:13 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id r93HaBWT010939 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:36:11 +0200 Message-ID: <524DAB07.5040505@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:36:07 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: ,<524B5E48.1000405@gmail.com> ,<524BEE8D.4030304@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Am 02.10.2013 15:39, schrieb Bob Raide: > I found that 500 comes alive when temperatures drop and ground cools. Yes indeed, i also guess that it's not only the lower QRN levels but also the ground temperature. At least if a significant portion of the path is land, then there could be some dependency. [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: c9c533f07c530c146486ecf89a00ebb1 Subject: Re: LF: No TA on MF :-( Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040809050509070304080900" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2477 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040809050509070304080900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 02.10.2013 15:39, schrieb Bob Raide: > I found that 500 comes alive when temperatures drop and ground cools. Yes indeed, i also guess that it's not only the lower QRN levels but also the ground temperature. At least if a significant portion of the path is land, then there could be some dependency. > I am surprised that LF works so well with these summer temps. Yes, LF is the real challenge :-) 630m is more or less the same almost any night, with ranges up to arround 2000km. BUT we know that there are some rare propagation events that one can call a miracle :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------040809050509070304080900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Am 02.10.2013 15:39, schrieb Bob Raide:
I found that 500 comes alive when temperatures drop and ground cools.
Yes indeed, i also guess that it's not only the lower QRN levels but also the ground temperature. At least if a significant portion of the path is land, then there could be some dependency.

I am surprised that LF works so well with these summer temps. 
Yes, LF is the real challenge :-)
630m is more or less the same almost any night, with ranges up to arround 2000km. BUT we know that there are some rare propagation events that one can call a miracle :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC
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