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Actually for VLF, working anyone is a rush!! Lol! Bless poor old Tony. Never mind. WSPR we love you! Oh and Opera too Jim G7NKS (Occasional MF'er and even less occasional VLF'er) _____ From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT Sent: 08 September 2013 20:25 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band Hi all I have to say I was very disappointed by that comment but assumed he had no experience below 3.6mhz like the majority of Hams. I am a annual subscriber to Practical Wireless which after all is the only counter weight to RADCOMIC the Martin Lynch and Sons catalogue or the PIC monthly as I call it. Schematics with a big blank square in the middle with no construction details of what the hell it is or forgive me Hex Code. Plus lots of generic schematics with no component details. Long boring articles by people who should know better. So you pays your money and takes your choice of Ham Radio comics. Even so I think PW needs a good talking to and to get a retraction or at least print the case for MF/LF/VLF. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX From: Graham To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013, 18:29 Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band And those who go a little more , Cams' comic so im reliably informed G, But , what actually is he talking about in the article ? -------------------------------------------------- From: "pat" Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:20 PM To: Cc: "Warren Ziegler" Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band > Warren, > While many of us (particularly those of us of a certain age) have an > affection stretching back to near childhood for that publication it is > not for nothing that we nickname it "Practically Witless Monthly" :>) > > 73 > > > On 08/09/13 02:53, Warren Ziegler wrote: >> >> Tony Nailer G4CFY has a bit in his "Practical Wireless" column >> "Technical for the terrified" this month on the 137 kHz band in which >> he writes it off as worthless. >> >> "With the limitation of antenna efficiency together with a bandwidth >> of only 100Hz, there really isn't much that can be done with this band." >> >> Anyone on the list know Tony? >> Who is in the best position to write a rebuttal that PW will publish? >> >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> > > > -- > 73 de pat g4gvw > es gd dx > qth nr Felixstowe > East Coast UK > > No virus found in this message. 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Until you’ve experienced the = thrill of working EU Dx on MF, LF and  VLF then you haven’t = lived.   Actually for VLF, working anyone is a rush!! Lol!   Bless poor old = Tony.  Never mind. 

 

WSPR we love you! Oh and Opera = too

 

Jim G7NKS  (Occasional = MF’er and even less occasional VLF’er) 

 

 

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of M0FMT
Sent: 08 September 2013 = 20:25
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY = writes off the 137kHz band

 

Hi = all

I have to say I was very disappointed by that comment but assumed he had no = experience below 3.6mhz like the majority of Hams. I am a annual subscriber to = Practical Wireless which after all is the only counter weight to RADCOMIC the = Martin Lynch and Sons catalogue or the PIC monthly as I call = it. Schematics with a big blank square in the middle with no construction details of = what the hell it is or forgive me Hex Code. Plus lots of generic schematics with = no component details. Long boring articles by people who should know better. So you = pays your money and takes your choice of Ham Radio = comics.

 

Even so I think PW needs a good talking to and to get a retraction or at least print the case for MF/LF/VLF.

73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX

 

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Sunday, 8 September = 2013, 18:29
Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY = writes off the 137kHz band


And those who go a little  more  ,

Cams' comic

so  im reliably  informed

G,

But  , what  actually  is  he  talking  = about in the  article  ?


--------------------------------------------------
From: "pat" <g4gvw@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:20 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org>
Cc: "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band

> Warren,
> While many of us (particularly those of us of a certain age) have = an
> affection stretching back to near childhood for that publication it = is
> not for nothing that we nickname it "Practically Witless Monthly" :>)
>
> 73
>
>
> On 08/09/13 02:53, Warren Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Tony Nailer G4CFY has a bit in his "Practical = Wireless" column
>> "Technical for the terrified" this month on the 137 = kHz band in which
>> he writes it off as worthless.
>>
>> "With the limitation of antenna efficiency together with a bandwidth
>> of only 100Hz, there really isn't much that can be done with = this band."
>>
>>  Anyone on the list know Tony?
>> Who is in the best position to write a rebuttal that PW will = publish?
>>
>>
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
>>                = WD2XGJ
>>                = WD2XSH/23
>>                = WE2XEB/2
>>                = WE2XGR/1
>>
>
>
> --
> 73 de pat g4gvw
> es gd dx
> qth nr Felixstowe
> East Coast UK
>
>


  =

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