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Subject: RE: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR
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G=3B
If I could handle more voltage at the base of my vertical I have the capabi=
lity of going to 5 KV plate volts @ 2 amps plate current.  I would have to =
use a keyed CW mode to run this rig like that.  But it would kick ass.  I w=
ouldn't want to run a steady state keydown carrier much over 4-5 KW.  So OP=
 65 would have 3+ db jump over anything else right off the bat!  But can't =
handle the ant input voltage-this is a log house and wood constructed garag=
e for the shack-fire dept over 2 miles away in town-this place would burn t=
o the ground-Bob
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From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Fri=2C 27 Sep 2013 21:55:50 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR

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We have still  the  last  working  OP2   =0A=
qso  mode =2C which  can  send   ' I have two cats'  =0A=
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But  the  decode   s/n is   -20 dB =2C =0A=
ROS-MF-2   is  round  -26 dB  -28dB   about =0A=
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as  wspr-2  =2C but a  full  free  running  =0A=
data  mode =0A=
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At  speeds  less  than  1  baud  =2C =0A=
would  any one  use  such a  mode =2C there  was  =0A=
a  ROS  0.1 Baud =0A=
7/8  db lower  =2C but  very  very  slow  =0A=
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In the  start =2C was the  problem  of  =0A=
translating   audio  to  rf  on 136/500  =2C =0A=
but  now  that =0A=
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73-G=2C =0A=
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From: Alex R7NT =0A=
Sent: Friday=2C September 27=2C 2013 9:40 PM=0A=
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A=
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Subject: LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR=0A=

Dear LF enthusiasts!
my opinion is not very original in =0A=
English - in Russian I would write A4+++ :-)

"CQ R7NT K"
QRSS20 =0A=
 -  28' 40'"  simple TX=2C visual decode=2C subjective report=2C random =0A=
time=2C QSO mode....
DFCW20  - 11' 4"      little more =0A=
complicated TX=2C visual decode=2C subjective report=2C random time=2C =0A=
QSO mode....

"any call ++"
Qp32  - 32'    simple TX=2C =0A=
software based decode/report=2C random time=2C no QSO mode....
WSPR-15 =0A=
- 15'  little more complicated TX=2C software based decode/report=2C =0A=
00'=2C 15'=2C 30'=2C 45' times to start=2C no QSO mode........

QRSS20 =0A=
~~=3DDFCW20 ~~=3DOP32 ~~=3DWSPR-15

Comparing OP32 and WSPR-15 =0A=
(OP8/WSPR-2) is equally as comparing QRSS20 and DFCW20 (QRSS3/ =0A=
DFCW3)
I personally like DFCW=2C JT9-5..10 more.... but I have the little =0A=
choise now....=20
...maybe WOLF agn?

73! Alex R7NT  136.73.ru
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>G=3B<BR>If I could handle&nbsp=
=3Bmore voltage at the base of my vertical I have the capability of going t=
o 5 KV plate volts @ 2 amps plate current.&nbsp=3B I would have to use a ke=
yed CW mode to run&nbsp=3Bthis rig like that.&nbsp=3B But it would kick ass=
.&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3BI wouldn't want to run a steady state keydown carrier much=
 over 4-5 KW.&nbsp=3B So OP 65 would have 3+ db jump over anything else rig=
ht off the bat!&nbsp=3B But can't handle the ant input voltage-this is a lo=
g house and wood constructed garage for the shack-fire dept over 2 miles aw=
ay in town-this place would burn to the ground-Bob<br>&nbsp=3B<BR><div><hr =
id=3D"stopSpelling">From: g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk<br>To: rsgb_lf_group@blac=
ksheep.org<br>Date: Fri=2C 27 Sep 2013 21:55:50 +0100<br>Subject: Re: LF: R=
e[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR<br><br>=0A=
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<div>We have still&nbsp=3B the&nbsp=3B last&nbsp=3B working&nbsp=3B OP2&nbs=
p=3B&nbsp=3B =0A=
qso&nbsp=3B mode =2C which&nbsp=3B can&nbsp=3B send&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B ' I hav=
e two cats'&nbsp=3B =0A=
</div>=0A=
<div>But&nbsp=3B the&nbsp=3B decode&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B s/n is&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B =
-20 dB =2C =0A=
ROS-MF-2&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B is&nbsp=3B round&nbsp=3B -26 dB&nbsp=3B -28dB&nbsp=
=3B&nbsp=3B about =0A=
the&nbsp=3B same</div>=0A=
<div>as&nbsp=3B wspr-2&nbsp=3B =2C but a&nbsp=3B full&nbsp=3B free&nbsp=3B =
running&nbsp=3B =0A=
data&nbsp=3B mode </div>=0A=
<div>&nbsp=3B</div>=0A=
<div>At&nbsp=3B speeds&nbsp=3B less&nbsp=3B than&nbsp=3B 1&nbsp=3B baud&nbs=
p=3B =2C =0A=
would&nbsp=3B any one&nbsp=3B use&nbsp=3B such a&nbsp=3B mode =2C there&nbs=
p=3B was&nbsp=3B =0A=
a&nbsp=3B ROS&nbsp=3B 0.1 Baud </div>=0A=
<div>7/8&nbsp=3B db lower&nbsp=3B =2C but&nbsp=3B very&nbsp=3B very&nbsp=3B=
 slow&nbsp=3B =0A=
!&nbsp=3B .. </div>=0A=
<div>&nbsp=3B</div>=0A=
<div>In the&nbsp=3B start =2C was the&nbsp=3B problem&nbsp=3B of&nbsp=3B =
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translating&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B audio&nbsp=3B to&nbsp=3B rf&nbsp=3B on 136/500&=
nbsp=3B =2C =0A=
but&nbsp=3B now&nbsp=3B that </div>=0A=
<div>seems&nbsp=3B to&nbsp=3B be&nbsp=3B much&nbsp=3B less&nbsp=3B of a&nbs=
p=3B problem =0A=
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<div>73-G=2C </div>=0A=
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"r7nt@bk.ru" href=3D"mailto:r7nt@bk.ru">Alex R=
7NT</a> </div>=0A=
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday=2C September 27=2C 2013 9:40 PM</div>=0A=
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" href=3D"mailto:rs=
gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a> =0A=
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<div><b>Subject:</b> LF: Re[2]: Re: QRSS OP WSPR</div></div></div>=0A=
<div><br></div>Dear LF enthusiasts!<br>my opinion is not very original in =
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English - in Russian I would write A4+++ :-)<br><br>"CQ R7NT K"<br>QRSS20 =
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&nbsp=3B- &nbsp=3B28' 40'" &nbsp=3Bsimple TX=2C visual decode=2C subjective=
 report=2C random =0A=
time=2C QSO mode....<br>DFCW20 &nbsp=3B- 11' 4" &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3Bl=
ittle more =0A=
complicated TX=2C&nbsp=3Bvisual decode=2C&nbsp=3Bsubjective report=2C&nbsp=
=3Brandom time=2C =0A=
QSO mode....<br><br>"any call ++"<br>Qp32 &nbsp=3B- 32' &nbsp=3B &nbsp=3Bsi=
mple TX=2C =0A=
software based decode/report=2C&nbsp=3Brandom time=2C no&nbsp=3BQSO mode...=
.<br>WSPR-15 =0A=
- 15' &nbsp=3Blittle more complicated TX=2C&nbsp=3Bsoftware based&nbsp=3Bde=
code/report=2C =0A=
00'=2C 15'=2C 30'=2C 45' times to start=2C&nbsp=3Bno&nbsp=3BQSO mode.......=
.<br><br>QRSS20 =0A=
~~=3DDFCW20 ~~=3DOP32 ~~=3DWSPR-15<br><br>Comparing OP32 and&nbsp=3BWSPR-15=
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(OP8/WSPR-2)&nbsp=3Bis equally as comparing&nbsp=3BQRSS20 and DFCW20 (QRSS3=
/ =0A=
DFCW3)<br>I personally like DFCW=2C JT9-5..10 more.... but I have the littl=
e =0A=
choise now.... <br>...maybe WOLF agn?<br><br>73! Alex R7NT &nbsp=3B136.73.r=
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