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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Couldn't do anything without this reflector. No one knows what the hell is going on without it. If I see something interesting I go right to it. Would never know otherwise. I never get anything on the yahoo reflector. I don't know if it gets used[???] Was very interesting, I tried for a year to get this reflector and never was successful. I put the word "end" at the end of the message and it was done! I must have sent 50 times to try to join. Always same message that they would get back to me with an answer and never hear anything! 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No one knows what the hell is= going on without it. If I see something interesting I go right to it. Wo= uld never know otherwise. =20 I never get anything on the yahoo reflector. I don't know if it gets used[= ???] Was very interesting=2C I tried for a year to get this reflector and = never was successful. I put the word "end" at the end of the message and i= t was done! I must have sent 50 times to try to join. Always same message= that they would get back to me with an answer and never hear anything! =20 Date: Sun=2C 29 Sep 2013 19:08:43 +0200 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 74550 XRS in Germany =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= PS: Even QRSS-60 is more promising than WSPR-15 for initial=0A= experiments. So the simple modes are still the right way to go.=20 =0A= =0A= PPS: I find a small part of this quick success is also due to the=0A= existence of this reflecor which helps to motivate active (RX=0A= or TX) LF/MF/VLF radio amateurs to motivate each other :-) =0A= =0A= 73=2C Stefan =0A= =0A= Am 29.09.2013 18:55=2C schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer:=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Hello Bob and Hartmut=2C=20 =0A= =20 =0A= My congratulation for that success. Both of you must have a very=0A= suitable system to radiate respectively receive a signal on the 4000m=0A= band!=20 =0A= =20 =0A= Bob=2C can you transmit DFCW? If 4000m behaves reasonable like 2200m=2C the= n=0A= DFCW-180 should be a good choice! It is a bit slower and may allow=0A= reception of your signal even for station with lower RX sensitivity=0A= than Hartmut offers. Also DFCW gives you a better ID since the=0A= frequency shift is another indicator which separates your signal from=0A= random QRM... =0A= =20 =0A= 73=2C GL=2C Stefan/DK7FC =0A= =20 =0A= =20 =0A= Am 29.09.2013 10:23=2C schrieb Hartmut Wolff:=0A= Bob=2C=20 =0A= =20 =0A= the capture is a bit tiny=2C because I used a qrss 120 screen. Your=0A= signal was drifting and you crossed the Loran line just before 04:00.=0A= For the future a frequency 1 Hz lower would be better.=20 =0A= =20 =0A= 73=20 =0A= =20 =0A= Hartmut=20 =0A= =0A= = --_d7b2cafc-465e-4827-92b9-facd2e3d9416_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Couldn't do anything without thi= s reflector. =3B No one knows what the hell is going on without it.&nbs= p=3B If I see something =3Binteresting I go right to it. =3B Would = never know otherwise. =3B
I never get anything on the yahoo reflect= or. =3B I don't know if it gets used[???] =3B Was very interesting= =2C I tried for a year to get this reflector and never was successful. = =3B I put the word "end" at the end of the message and it was done! =3B= I must have sent 50 times to try to join. =3B Always same message that= they would get back to me with an answer and never hear anything!
 = =3B

Date: Sun=2C 29 Sep 2013 19:08:43 +0200=
From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 74550 XRS in Germany

=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= PS: Even QRSS-60 is more promising than WSPR-15 for initial=0A= experiments. So the simple modes are still the right way to go.
=0A=
=0A= PPS: I find a small part of this quick success is also due to the=0A= existence of this reflecor which helps to motivate active (RX=0A= or TX) LF/MF/VLF radio amateurs to motivate each other =3B :-)
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=0A= 73=2C Stefan
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=0A= Am 29.09.2013 18:55=2C schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer:=0A=
=0A= =0A= =0A= Hello Bob and Hartmut=2C
=0A=
=0A= My congratulation for that success. Both of you must have a very=0A= suitable system to radiate respectively receive a signal on the 4000m=0A= band!
=0A=
=0A= Bob=2C can you transmit DFCW? If 4000m behaves reasonable like 2200m=2C the= n=0A= DFCW-180 should be a good choice! It is a bit slower and may allow=0A= reception of your signal even for station with lower RX sensitivity=0A= than Hartmut offers. Also DFCW gives you a better ID since the=0A= frequency shift is another indicator which separates your signal from=0A= random QRM...
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=0A= 73=2C GL=2C Stefan/DK7FC
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=0A= Am 29.09.2013 10:23=2C schrieb Hartmut Wolff:=0A=
Bob=2C
=0A=
=0A= the capture is a bit tiny=2C because I used a qrss 120 screen. Your=0A= signal was drifting and you crossed the Loran line just before 04:00.=0A= For the future a frequency 1 Hz lower would be better.
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=0A= 73
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=0A= Hartmut
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