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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Bob, you got the call correct ;-) The main advantage of DFCW (over QRSS) is that at the same dotlength the speed is about 3 times higher, due to the fact that dots and dashed have the same length (see http://www.qsl.net/on7yd/136narro.htm#DFCW). 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I also noticed John Andrews does too the las= t time I saw him on 73. Yes I think it is easy for me to change. I use th= e ON7YD [hope I have his call correct] program and feed my SSB exciter with= the laptop with that program and I see it available on his "options" page.= I was going to ask you why you use it. Now I know and I will try it toni= te-Bob ________________________________ Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:55:24 +0200 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: 74550 XRS in Germany Hello Bob and Hartmut, My congratulation for that success. Both of you must have a very suitable s= ystem to radiate respectively receive a signal on the 4000m band! Bob, can you transmit DFCW? If 4000m behaves reasonable like 2200m, then DF= CW-180 should be a good choice! It is a bit slower and may allow reception = of your signal even for station with lower RX sensitivity than Hartmut offe= rs. Also DFCW gives you a better ID since the frequency shift is another in= dicator which separates your signal from random QRM... 73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC Am 29.09.2013 10:23, schrieb Hartmut Wolff: Bob, the capture is a bit tiny, because I used a qrss 120 screen. Your signal wa= s drifting and you crossed the Loran line just before 04:00. For the future= a frequency 1 Hz lower would be better. 73 Hartmut --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FC61948ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Bob,

 

you got the call correct ;-)

The main advantage of DFCW (over QRSS) is that at the same dotlength the= speed is about 3 times higher, due to the fact that dots and dashed h= ave the same length (see http://www.qsl.net/o= n7yd/136narro.htm#DFCW).

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Bob Raide [rjraide@hotmail.com] Verzonden: zondag 29 september 2013 19:06
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: RE: LF: 74550 XRS in Germany

Stefan;
I notice you always use DFCW.  I also noticed John Andrews does t= oo the last time I saw him on 73.  Yes I think it is easy for me to ch= ange.  I use the ON7YD [hope I have his call correct] program and feed= my SSB exciter with the laptop with that program and I see it available on his "options" page.  I was going to a= sk you why you use it.  Now I know and I will try it tonite-Bob
 

Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 18:55:24 +0200
From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: 74550 XRS in Germany

Hello Bob and Hartmut,

My congratulation for that success. Both of you must have a very suitable s= ystem to radiate respectively receive a signal on the 4000m band!

Bob, can you transmit DFCW? If 4000m behaves reasonable like 2200m, then= DFCW-180 should be a good choice! It is a bit slower and may allow rec= eption of your signal even for station with lower RX sensitivity than Hartm= ut offers. Also DFCW gives you a better ID since the frequency shift is another indicator which separates y= our signal from random QRM...

73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 29.09.2013 10:23, schrieb Hartmut Wolff:
Bob,

the capture is a bit tiny, because I used a qrss 120 screen. Your signal wa= s drifting and you crossed the Loran line just before 04:00. For the future= a frequency 1 Hz lower would be better.

73

Hartmut
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