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Content preview: Hi Dave, in Belgium we can use both 472-479 kHz and 501-504 kHz. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [134.58.240.130 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 75c3d95860c3bfbf294eb6249e54dfb3 Subject: LF: RE: RE: MF WSPR from France Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FC3F982ICTSSMBX1lunaku_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 774 --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FC3F982ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave, in Belgium we can use both 472-479 kHz and 501-504 kHz. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens Dave G3WCB. [ganymede444@btopenworld.com] Verzonden: maandag 9 september 2013 21:15 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: RE: MF WSPR from France Hi, Stefan. Thank you for the WSPR report from France. I also get regular spots from F4= DTL, F5WK and F6CNI, so I know that there are regular WSPR listeners in Fra= nce, even though they cannot transmit on the 630m band. Are any countries still transmitting in the old 501 - 504 kHz band? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org]On Behalf Of Stefan Sch=E4fer Sent: 09 September 2013 15:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: MF WSPR from France Hi all, Without any announcements i've been in France again last weekend, like each= year, meeting some friends on a fieldday. This time no LF experiments were planned and no MF / 630m, because the band= isn't still allocated in France. The WX was bad, no wind but mostly rainin= g. However there was mobile internet available and so i run some RX tests on 6= 30m WSPR. First i wanted to use a my active ferrite antenna but then i reme= mbered that i have done a modification on my MF converter so that it doesn'= t work in combination with that antenna. My last chance was to use a simple= piece of wire, connected to the RX. It turned out that it was very easy th= ere in the open field to get some very good results! I just took a simple w= ire, 10 m long, dropped in some nearby (wet) hedge. The RX was then grounde= d by a 10cm long/deep tent peg. No matching transformer or resonance circui= t was used! Outside the city and far enough away from DCF39, AFN and DLF it was quite e= asy to get a nice S/N from the transmitting stations. The background noise = was 20 dB above the RX+soundcard noise. I've been active for just a few hours and these are the best S/N reports fo= r the active stations (thanks to them for the interesting tests). Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter = RGrid km az 2013-09-07 22:48 IZ7SLZ 0.475646 -29 1 JN= 80nu 50 F/DK7FC JN29pd 1307 319 2013-09-07 21:26 I5MXX 0.475618 -19 0 JN53ju = 10 F/DK7FC JN29pd 723 326 2013-09-07 21:22 M0PPP 0.475617 -15 0 IO93gm = 0.2 F/DK7FC JN29pd 675 133 2013-09-07 20:22 DF2FF 0.475773 -28 0 JO44th = 0.5 F/DK7FC JN29pd 647 209 2013-09-07 20:18 G3WCB 0.475732 -23 0 IO91rm = 0.02 F/DK7FC JN29pd 491 120 2013-09-07 20:46 PA0A 0.475697 +2 0 JO33de = 1 F/DK7FC JN29pd 455 189 2013-09-07 21:34 G6AVK 0.475759 -23 0 JO01ho = 0.005 F/DK7FC JN29pd 429 128 2013-09-07 20:48 DK6NI 0.475696 -18 0 JN59ln = 0.1 F/DK7FC JN29pd 413 266 2013-09-07 19:56 PA3ABK 0.475741 +3 0 JO= 21it 0.01 F/DK7FC JN29pd 299 172 2013-09-07 21:24 F4DTL 0.475616 -17 0 JN18fp = 0.2 F/DK7FC JN29pd 214 74 73, Stefan/DK7FC --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FC3F982ICTSSMBX1lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Dave,

 

in Belgium we can use both 472-479 kHz and 501-504 kHz.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Dave G3WCB. [ganymede444@btopenwo= rld.com]
Verzonden: maandag 9 september 2013 21:15
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: RE: MF WSPR from France

Hi, Stefan.
 
Thank you for the WSPR report from France. I also get regula= r spots from F4DTL, F5WK and F6CNI, so I know that there are regular WSPR l= isteners in France, even though they cannot transmit on the 630m band.
 
Are any countries still transmitting in the old 501 - 504 kH= z band?
 
73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Stefan Sch=E4fer
Sent: 09 September 2013 15:58
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: MF WSPR from France

Hi all,

Without any announcements i've been in France again last weekend, like each= year, meeting some friends on a fieldday.

This time no LF experiments were planned and no MF / 630m, because the band= isn't still allocated in France. The WX was bad, no wind but mostly rainin= g.

However there was mobile internet available and so i run some RX tests on 6= 30m WSPR. First i wanted to use a my active ferrite antenna but then i reme= mbered that i have done a modification on my MF converter so that it doesn'= t work in combination with that antenna. My last chance was to use a simple piece of wire, connected to th= e RX. It turned out that it was very easy there in the open field to get so= me very good results! I just took a simple wire, 10 m long, dropped in some= nearby (wet) hedge. The RX was then grounded by a 10cm long/deep tent peg. No matching transformer or res= onance circuit was used!

Outside the city and far enough away from DCF39, AFN and DLF it was quite e= asy to get a nice S/N from the transmitting stations. The background noise = was 20 dB above the RX+soundcard noise.
I've been active for just a few hours and these are the best S/N reports fo= r the active stations (thanks to them for the interesting tests).

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2013-09-07 22:48   IZ7SLZ   0.475646   -29   1   JN80nu   50   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   1307   319 
 2013-09-07 21:26   I5MXX   0.475618   -19   0   JN53ju   10   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   723   326 
 2013-09-07 21:22   M0PPP   0.475617   -15   0   IO93gm   0.2   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   675   133 
 2013-09-07 20:22   DF2FF   0.475773   -28   0   JO44th   0.5   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   647   209 
 2013-09-07 20:18   G3WCB   0.475732   -23   0   IO91rm   0.02   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   491   120 
 2013-09-07 20:46   PA0A   0.475697   +2   0   JO33de   1   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   455   189 
 2013-09-07 21:34   G6AVK   0.475759   -23   0   JO01ho   0.005   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   429   128 
 2013-09-07 20:48   DK6NI   0.475696   -18   0   JN59ln   0.1   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   413   266 
 2013-09-07 19:56   PA3ABK   0.475741   +3   0   JO21it   0.01   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   299   172 
 2013-09-07 21:24   F4DTL   0.475616   -17   0   JN18fp   0.2   F/DK7FC   JN29pd   214   74 

73, Stefan/DK7FC
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