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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: PS: Even QRSS-60 is more promising than WSPR-15 for initial experiments. So the simple modes are still the right way to go. PPS: I find a small part of this quick success is also due to the existence of this reflecor which helps to motivate _active_ (RX or TX) LF/MF/VLF radio amateurs to motivate each other :-) [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 2ee80849a5d572dbc974bb207a527753 Subject: Re: LF: 74550 XRS in Germany Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060903030006010307010505" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1972 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060903030006010307010505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id r8TH8m4O005079 PS: Even QRSS-60 is more promising than WSPR-15 for initial experiments.=20 So the simple modes are still the right way to go. PPS: I find a small part of this quick success is also due to the=20 existence of this reflecor which helps to motivate _active_ (RX or TX)=20 LF/MF/VLF radio amateurs to motivate each other :-) 73, Stefan Am 29.09.2013 18:55, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: > Hello Bob and Hartmut, > > My congratulation for that success. Both of you must have a very=20 > suitable system to radiate respectively receive a signal on the 4000m=20 > band! > > Bob, can you transmit DFCW? If 4000m behaves reasonable like 2200m,=20 > then* DFCW-180* should be a good choice! It is a bit slower and may=20 > allow reception of your signal even for station with lower RX=20 > sensitivity than Hartmut offers. Also DFCW gives you a better ID since=20 > the frequency shift is another indicator which separates your signal=20 > from random QRM... > > 73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC > > > Am 29.09.2013 10:23, schrieb Hartmut Wolff: >> Bob, >> >> the capture is a bit tiny, because I used a qrss 120 screen. Your=20 >> signal was drifting and you crossed the Loran line just before 04:00.=20 >> For the future a frequency 1 Hz lower would be better. >> >> 73 >> >> Hartmut --------------060903030006010307010505 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id r8TH8m4O005079 PS: Even QRSS-60 is more promising than WSPR-15 for initial experiments. So the simple modes are still the right way to go.

PPS: I find a small part of this quick success is also due to the existence of this reflecor which helps to motivate active (RX or TX) LF/MF/VLF radio amateurs to motivate each other=A0 :-)

73, Stefan

Am 29.09.2013 18:55, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer:
Hello Bob and Hartmut,

My congratulation for that success. Both of you must have a very suitable system to radiate respectively receive a signal on the 4000m band!

Bob, can you transmit DFCW? If 4000m behaves reasonable like 2200m, then<= b> DFCW-180 should be a good choice! It is a bit slower and may allow reception of your signal even for station with lower RX sensitivity than Hartmut offers. Also DFCW gives you a better ID since the frequency shift is another indicator which separates your signal from random QRM...

73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 29.09.2013 10:23, schrieb Hartmut Wolff:
Bob,
the capture is a bit tiny, because I used a qrss 120 screen. Your signal was drifting and you crossed the Loran line just before 04:00. For the future a frequency 1 Hz lower would be better.

73

Hartmut
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