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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Bob, Am 25.09.2013 03:01, schrieb Bob Raide: > [...]But only have a 90' high tower and at the top is the center feed > point of my 75 meter double extended zepp. I simply short the open > wire line which runs almost vertically and fed it with allot of > inductance in series! I assume the two 150' legs acts as top > loading. Ground system is from my broadcast experience where for field > intensity surveys 36" wide chicken wire was used with a 100' tower > most often and a 250 transmitter. Eight 50' chicken wire radials > produced decent field on the midband channels [1000 kHz or so] to > measure from. Here I am using several 150' radials of chicken wire > radials. I hope to stretch some out to 300' but that's going to be > about it at my location. 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060802070804010806070908" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2995 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060802070804010806070908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bob, Am 25.09.2013 03:01, schrieb Bob Raide: > [...]But only have a 90' high tower and at the top is the center feed > point of my 75 meter double extended zepp. I simply short the open > wire line which runs almost vertically and fed it with allot of > inductance in series! I assume the two 150' legs acts as top > loading. Ground system is from my broadcast experience where for field > intensity surveys 36" wide chicken wire was used with a 100' tower > most often and a 250 transmitter. Eight 50' chicken wire radials > produced decent field on the midband channels [1000 kHz or so] to > measure from. Here I am using several 150' radials of chicken wire > radials. I hope to stretch some out to 300' but that's going to be > about it at my location. Can you post a link to some photos showing the tower and environment ? Do you use deep earth rods additionally to the wire radials? Can you add even more capacitive load to the top of the tower, giving an umbrella antenna. 600 pF, as Alan sais, is nice but not much on 73 kHz and you seem to be voltage limited now (like me, sometimes :-) ). Some images would be interesting for us i think. 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------060802070804010806070908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bob,

Am 25.09.2013 03:01, schrieb Bob Raide:
[...]But only have a 90' high tower and at the top is the center feed point of my 75 meter double extended zepp.  I simply short the open wire line which runs almost vertically and fed it with allot of inductance in series! I assume the two 150' legs acts as top loading. Ground system is from my broadcast experience where for field intensity surveys 36" wide chicken wire was used with a 100' tower most often and a 250 transmitter.  Eight 50' chicken wire radials produced decent field on the midband channels [1000 kHz or so] to measure from.  Here I am using several 150' radials of chicken wire radials.  I hope to stretch some out to 300' but that's going to be about it at my location.

Can you post a link to some photos showing the tower and environment ?

Do you use deep earth rods additionally to the wire radials? Can you add even more capacitive load to the top of the tower, giving an umbrella antenna. 600 pF, as Alan sais, is nice but not much on 73 kHz and you seem to be voltage limited now (like me, sometimes :-) ).
Some images would be interesting for us i think.

73, Stefan/DK7FC
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