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Content preview: Hi Alan, The DST stuff may not look that bad but i didn't get a single WSPR-15 decode on LF by UA0SNV, so there must be something wrong! ;-) 73, Stefan [...] Content analysis details: (-3.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 07fee8d4a4e8ea80934a0e0aaa44e788 Subject: Re: LF: Over the Pole and far far away Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040700070106050902070908" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2570 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040700070106050902070908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alan, The DST stuff may not look that bad but i didn't get a single WSPR-15 decode on LF by UA0SNV, so there must be something wrong! ;-) 73, Stefan Am 18.09.2013 00:05, schrieb Alan Melia: > Hi Laurence yes its possible the proton didnt seem to be up on NOAA > and at this time of year there is still a reasonable amount of > daylight so I dont really know I havent found any other mechanism that > account for that amount of change. The Dst isnt brilliant but its not > that bad and bouncing around a bit so there is nothing there to > suggest big absorption. The only thing is the surprisingly quiet > nature oof Solar actiity for this time in the cycle. How long has it > been depressedthat badly with you?? > Alan > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Laurence KL7 L > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:37 PM > *Subject:* RE: LF: Over the Pole and far far away > > Thanks Alan - yep could be leakage but this morning I see the > low/high Proton levels were way up just for a short while and now > back down to flat line too - though I see whe are going to get a > little Coronal for a while. > > This isnt just on LF MF but even HF is a little depressed - so > maybe a little kick of the present mid lat K3 will help. > Odd stuff this... DCF39 is something like >50dBr or more down on > where it was this time last year (on a good day) > > Even the Path to Texas wasnt good last night at MF. Cheers from a > snowy hilled Alaska > > > Laurence KL 7 L > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: alan.melia@btinternet.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:11:12 +0100 > Subject: Re: LF: Over the Pole and far far away > > Hi Laurence, thaksor your observations. It does not seem to > absorpyion by precipitated electrons. However the solar X-ray flux > has been very quiet for some time now(which is a bit odd) I > wonder if we are suffering ionospheric leakage at least on your > path. That is where not all th signal is refracted but a > considerble portion goes right through the E layer out into space?? > If that is the case what we might need is a minor geeomag storm to > beef up the electron density again. > Alan G3NYK > --------------040700070106050902070908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alan,

The DST stuff may not look that bad but i didn't get a single WSPR-15 decode on LF by UA0SNV, so there must be something wrong! ;-)

73, Stefan

Am 18.09.2013 00:05, schrieb Alan Melia:
Hi Laurence yes its possible the proton didnt seem to be up on NOAA and at this time of year there is still a reasonable amount of daylight so I dont really know I havent found any other mechanism that account for that amount of change. The Dst isnt brilliant but its not that bad and bouncing around a bit so there is nothing there to suggest big absorption. The only thing is the surprisingly quiet nature oof Solar actiity for this time in the cycle. How long has it been depressedthat badly with you??
 
Alan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:37 PM
Subject: RE: LF: Over the Pole and far far away

Thanks Alan - yep could be leakage but this morning I see the low/high Proton levels  were way up just for a short while and now back down to flat line too - though I see whe are going to get a little Coronal for a while.
 
This isnt just on LF MF but even HF is a little depressed -  so maybe a little kick of the present mid lat K3 will help.  Odd stuff this... DCF39 is something like >50dBr or more down on where it was this time last year (on a good day)
 
Even the Path to Texas wasnt good last night at MF. Cheers from a snowy hilled Alaska
 
 
Laurence KL 7 L
 
From: alan.melia@btinternet.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:11:12 +0100
Subject: Re: LF: Over the Pole and far far away

Hi Laurence, thaksor your observations. It does not seem to absorpyion by precipitated electrons. However the solar X-ray flux has been very quiet for some time now(which is a bit odd)  I wonder if we are suffering ionospheric leakage at least on your path. That is where not all th signal is refracted but a considerble portion goes right through the E layer out into space??
 
If that is the case what we might need is a minor geeomag storm to beef up the electron density again.
 
Alan G3NYK
 
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