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G) From: M0FMT Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:25 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 7a5eab5982daca5912e6e97333848fe5 Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01CEACE2.67489740" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_EXPERIENCE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2347 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01CEACE2.67489740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hope your not 'Picking' faults there Pete ? G) From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:25 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band Hi all I have to say I was very disappointed by that comment but assumed he had = no experience below 3.6mhz like the majority of Hams. I am a annual = subscriber to Practical Wireless which after all is the only counter = weight to RADCOMIC the Martin Lynch and Sons catalogue or the PIC = monthly as I call it. Schematics with a big blank square in the middle = with no construction details of what the hell it is or forgive me Hex = Code. Plus lots of generic schematics with no component details. Long = boring articles by people who should know better. So you pays your money = and takes your choice of Ham Radio comics. Even so I think PW needs a good talking to and to get a retraction or at = least print the case for MF/LF/VLF. 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX From: Graham To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013, 18:29 Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band And those who go a little more ,=20 Cams' comic=20 so im reliably informed=20 G,=20 But , what actually is he talking about in the article ? -------------------------------------------------- From: "pat" Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:20 PM To: Cc: "Warren Ziegler" Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band > Warren, > While many of us (particularly those of us of a certain age) have an=20 > affection stretching back to near childhood for that publication it is = > not for nothing that we nickname it "Practically Witless Monthly" :>) >=20 > 73 >=20 >=20 > On 08/09/13 02:53, Warren Ziegler wrote: >> >> Tony Nailer G4CFY has a bit in his "Practical Wireless" column=20 >> "Technical for the terrified" this month on the 137 kHz band in which = >> he writes it off as worthless. >> >> "With the limitation of antenna efficiency together with a bandwidth=20 >> of only 100Hz, there really isn't much that can be done with this = band." >> >> Anyone on the list know Tony? >> Who is in the best position to write a rebuttal that PW will publish? >> >> >> --=20 >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >=20 >=20 > --=20 > 73 de pat g4gvw > es gd dx > qth nr Felixstowe > East Coast UK >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01CEACE2.67489740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hope your  not  'Picking'   faults  = there =20 Pete  ?
 
G)

From: M0FMT
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: LF: G4CFY writes off the 137kHz = band

Hi all
I have to say I was very disappointed by that comment but assumed = he had no=20 experience below 3.6mhz like the majority of Hams. I am a annual = subscriber to=20 Practical Wireless which after all is the only counter weight = to RADCOMIC=20 the Martin Lynch and Sons catalogue or the PIC monthly as I call=20 it. Schematics with a big blank square in the middle with no = construction=20 details of what the hell it is or forgive me Hex Code. Plus lots of = generic=20 schematics with no component details. Long boring articles by people who = should=20 know better. So you pays your money and takes your choice of Ham Radio=20 comics.
 
Even so I think PW needs a good talking to and to get a retraction = or at=20 least print the case for MF/LF/VLF.
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX

From: = Graham=20 <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
Sent: Sunday, 8 = September=20 2013, 18:29
Subject: = Re: LF:=20 G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band

And those who go a little  = more  ,=20

Cams' comic

so  im reliably  informed =

G,=20

But  , what  actually  is  he  = talking =20 about in the  article =20 ?


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From: = "pat"=20 <g4gvw@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, = September=20 08, 2013 6:20 PM
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.= org>
Cc:=20 "Warren Ziegler" <wd2xgj@gmail.com>
Subject: = Re: LF:=20 G4CFY writes off the 137kHz band

> Warren,
> While many = of us=20 (particularly those of us of a certain age) have an
> affection=20 stretching back to near childhood for that publication it is
> = not for=20 nothing that we nickname it "Practically Witless Monthly" :>)
> =
> 73
>
>
> On 08/09/13 02:53, Warren Ziegler=20 wrote:
>>
>> Tony Nailer G4CFY has a bit in his = "Practical=20 Wireless" column
>> "Technical for the terrified" this month = on the=20 137 kHz band in which
>> he writes it off as=20 worthless.
>>
>> "With the limitation of antenna = efficiency=20 together with a bandwidth
>> of only 100Hz, there really isn't = much=20 that can be done with this band."
>>
>>  Anyone = on the=20 list know Tony?
>> Who is in the best position to write a = rebuttal that=20 PW will publish?
>>
>>
>> --
>> 73 = Warren=20 K2ORS
>>                = WD2XGJ
>>              =  =20 WD2XSH/23
>>              =  =20 WE2XEB/2
>>              =  =20 WE2XGR/1
>>
>
>
> --
> 73 de pat=20 g4gvw
> es gd dx
> qth nr Felixstowe
> East Coast = UK
>=20
>



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