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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Christian, there's not much traffic on this small road. Anyway,at that point there is only a rather soft Dynema rope with a very thin smooth wire (DX-Wire UL) attached to it by some zip ties,so probably nothing hazardous would happen if the rope fell down. But it has stood the last 18 years including Kyrill without damage. 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Anyway,at that point there is only a rather soft Dynema rope with a very thin smooth wire (DX-Wire UL) attached to it by some zip ties,so probably nothing hazardous would happen if the rope fell down. But it has stood the last 18 years including Kyrill without damage. Constructing details: The basic antenna was a 2x46m V-Dipole made of 3mm military grade bronze guyed by three 3mm Dynema ropes so you have a 'Y'. The 42m long feeder is hanging below one of the three ropes,it has to carry only its own weight. Last year I decided to make a 2x150m dipole out of the exisisting antenna by wrapping an ultra light wire (see above) in a slight spiral manner around the guying ropes going to the end points (trees) and fixing it every few meters by zip ties.This UL wire was then soldered to the ends of the original antenna. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of C. Groeger >Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:59 PM >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Subject: Re: LF: QRM on 472.5kHz > >Hi Clemens! >Interesting foto of your antenna! >I see that you crossed at least one road. How did you manage >that no part of your antenna can fall down on the road, >jeopardizing the traffic? >I also would like to build a dipole here but also have to >cross one small road... >Now using a 300m lw of 1.8 m alu wire with a tension of 80 kg >to prevent hanging through. >Can you give more details of your construction? >73, df5qg >