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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan, A more serious answer to the 10W ERP question: I had to pick a number, so I am inclined to pick the least restrictive parameters that I can. I could have picked 0.1 Watt but what if someday I could manage 0.12 Watt? I would then have to operate illegally or reapply for the license. Perhaps someday one of us will have access to a commercial tower and actually be able to have 10W ERP. If that happy circumstance were to occur, I would not need a new license. You must keep in mind that experimental licensing is a slow process and a new license takes months to issue. 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I could have picked 0.1 Watt but what if someday I could manage 0.12 Watt? I would then have to operate illegally or reapply for the license. Perhaps someday one of us will have access to a commercial tower and actually be able to have 10W ERP. If that happy circumstance were to occur, I would not need a new license. You must keep in mind that experimental licensing is a slow process and a new license takes months to issue. 73 Warren On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Stefan Sch=E4fer < Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > ** > My congrats for getting that band! > Who of you can manage to radiate 10 W ERP on the 4 km band? I remember it > was quite an effort to radiate 58 mW ERP at 33 km :-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Am 03.08.2013 17:39, schrieb Warren Ziegler: > > Hello the list, > As Graham has pointed out I have applied for and received an > experimental grant for 68-76kHz. > I have loaded a copy of the license as well as the Experimental > Description (Question 7 on FCC/OET form 442) on my web page: > > https://sites.google.com/site/wd2xgj/wg2xrs > > (I am really bad at making web pages - probably because I'd rather play > radio than spend time learning web page design!) > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Graham wrote: > >> USA issued 68 to 76 kHz band with 10 W ERP >> >> Just in from WG2XRS/4 >> >> You might have heard a group of us have received a license covering 68 t= o >> 76 kHz with 10 W ERP for most all modes including SSB! Authorization ca= me >> yesterday and already have W4DEX on QRSS and into W1VD and others with v= ery >> solid sigs on 72.4 kHz. Am gearing up for that operation as we speak.Bo= b, >> WG2XRS/4 >> >> G.. >> > > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --047d7b2e4c46b08b3a04e314ef0c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan,
=A0 =A0A more serious answer to the 10W ERP qu= estion:
I had to pick a number, so I am inclined =A0to pick the l= east restrictive parameters that I can.
I could have picked 0.1 W= att but what if someday I could manage 0.12 Watt? I would then have to oper= ate illegally or reapply for the license. Perhaps someday one of us will ha= ve access to a commercial tower and actually be able to have 10W ERP. If th= at happy circumstance were to occur, I would not need a new license. You mu= st keep in mind that experimental licensing =A0is a slow process and a new = license takes months to issue.

73 Warren



On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:32 PM, = Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.d= e> wrote:
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My congrats for getting that band!
Who of you can manage to radiate 10 W ERP on the 4 km band? I remember it was quite an effort to radiate 58 mW ERP at 33 km :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 03.08.2013 17:39, schrieb Warren Ziegler:
Hello the list,
=A0 =A0 =A0As Graham has pointed out I have applied for and received an experimental grant for 68-76kHz.
=A0I have loaded a copy of the license as well as the Experimental Description (Question 7 on FCC/OET form 442) on my web page:


(I am really bad at making web pages - probably because I'd rather play radio than spend time learning web page design!)

73 Warren K2ORS



On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
USA=A0=A0 issued=A0 68 to 76 kHz=A0=A0 band with 10 W ERP
=A0
Just in from WG2XRS/4
=A0
You might have heard a group of us have received a license covering 68 to 76 kHz with 10 W ERP for most all modes including SSB!=A0 Authorization came yesterday and already have W4DEX on QRSS and into W1VD and others with very solid sigs on 72.4 kHz.=A0 Am gearing up for that operation as we speak.Bob, WG2XRS/4
=A0
G..



--
73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1

=A0



--
73 Warren K2= ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2
=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1

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