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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Sorry, the time in the list is wrong. It is not UTC but local time which is UTC+2 here now. 73, Stefan Am 14.07.2013 18:37, schrieb Stefan Schäfer: > MF, > > I just came back from a field experiment, using the short active > dipole which is resonated to 475 kHz (4.7 mH and 10 mH fixed inductors > in parallel plus a few pF (<10) for fine adjustment), with fiber optic > cable. > > Tests were done in JN49HK94RW, a distance of 2.3 km, see > http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=JN49HK94RW&from=JN49IK00WD Since it > was 17 AM local time i assume there was no skywave component. The > location is an open field without trees or houses in a radius of at > least 30m and without electricity in a radius of at least 100m. > > Some results were interesting for me. However i have to do the test > again because my own signal was so strong that some measurements > overloaded the soundcard. I have to reduce the power by 30 dB or so in > the next test, or i have to choose another location. > > The signal levels were shown in my battery powered netbook using > SpecLab Software. Noise measurements were done in 1 Hz NBW. > > I do not have a high and stable plastic pole so it was just possible > to do the test in 1.75 m above the ground. Tests were done in a > horizontal and vertical position of the dipole. For the horizontal > test i tried both, poiting of the dipole to the TX location and 90 deg > rotated to it. There was no difference. The tests were done with a > floating and a grounded dipole (grounded to a local earth rod, just > 10cm into the soil). > > Images: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/MF/20130714_165114.jpg > (Receiver) > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/MF/20130714_170616.jpg > (Vertical) > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/MF/20130714_165421.jpg > (Horizontal) > > Results are attached in the image. > > Now we can discuss about the results, or not :-) > As i said, i have to repeat the test because a few of the measurements > were to close to the soundcards ADC limit and caused nonlinearity... > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC [...] Content analysis details: (-1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 49f0f587e44d6711c57b8a4e950ba850 Subject: Re: LF: Re: MiniWhip antenna, fiber optic /p tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2836 Sorry, the time in the list is wrong. It is not UTC but local time which=20 is UTC+2 here now. 73, Stefan Am 14.07.2013 18:37, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: > MF, > > I just came back from a field experiment, using the short active=20 > dipole which is resonated to 475 kHz (4.7 mH and 10 mH fixed inductors=20 > in parallel plus a few pF (<10) for fine adjustment), with fiber optic=20 > cable. > > Tests were done in JN49HK94RW, a distance of 2.3 km, see=20 > http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN49HK94RW&from=3DJN49IK00WD Since = it=20 > was 17 AM local time i assume there was no skywave component. The=20 > location is an open field without trees or houses in a radius of at=20 > least 30m and without electricity in a radius of at least 100m. > > Some results were interesting for me. However i have to do the test=20 > again because my own signal was so strong that some measurements=20 > overloaded the soundcard. I have to reduce the power by 30 dB or so in=20 > the next test, or i have to choose another location. > > The signal levels were shown in my battery powered netbook using=20 > SpecLab Software. Noise measurements were done in 1 Hz NBW. > > I do not have a high and stable plastic pole so it was just possible=20 > to do the test in 1.75 m above the ground. Tests were done in a=20 > horizontal and vertical position of the dipole. For the horizontal=20 > test i tried both, poiting of the dipole to the TX location and 90 deg=20 > rotated to it. There was no difference. The tests were done with a=20 > floating and a grounded dipole (grounded to a local earth rod, just=20 > 10cm into the soil). > > Images: > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/MF/20130714_165114.jpg=20 > (Receiver) > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/MF/20130714_170616.jpg=20 > (Vertical) > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19882028/MF/20130714_165421.jpg=20 > (Horizontal) > > Results are attached in the image. > > Now we can discuss about the results, or not :-) > As i said, i have to repeat the test because a few of the measurements=20 > were to close to the soundcards ADC limit and caused nonlinearity... > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC