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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello LF/MF, I just got a call from Cesare I5TGC, an old man, old timer with young heart! He told me that he's now active also on 470 kHz with an update off his transverter and antenna. He regrets that although he placed several calls he got no replies (only a QSO with Marzio who lives abt 40 km away. He noticed also that the band is plenty of digital modes (WSPR Opera) but apparently nobody on the air with QRSS. I explained him that due to the band characteristics when condition are good the traffic takes places in CW... but when signals are digged in the noise only digital modes are looking to give resoults. Due to the ...birth date (hi) he regrets he can not stay up after 2200 local time (now 2000 UTC) so he's missing something but hopes when winter will approach again to hear somebody.. 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He told me that he's now active also on 470 kHz with an update off his = transverter and antenna. He regrets that although he placed several calls he got no replies (only = a QSO with Marzio who lives abt 40 km away. He noticed also that the band is plenty of digital modes (WSPR Opera) = but apparently nobody on the air with QRSS. I explained him that due to = the band characteristics when condition are good the traffic takes = places in CW... but when signals are digged in the noise only digital = modes are looking to give resoults. Due to the ...birth date (hi) he regrets he can not stay up after 2200 = local time (now 2000 UTC) so he's missing something but hopes when = winter will approach again to hear somebody.. CU Marco IK1HSS (still with no antenna to transmit...) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:26 PM Subject: Re: LF: Wellbrook RX loops Hi Roger I use a Wellbrook Loop type ALA1530 (MW/HF) mounted 1m off the ground = and a PA0RDT mini-whip mounted about 7m above ground. Sometimes the = loop wins other times the miniwhip. The miniwhip is omnidirectional = and uses the e field, whereas the loop is directional and uses the = magnetic field. The miniwhip is more open to BC breakthough than the = loop but more sensitive. I tend to monitor with the miniwhip, and = switch to the loop after homing in on the signal if this helps. BC = breakthough is overcome using a simple series LC circuit tuned to the = required band at the RX end of the coax. The QRM at my QRT can be = horrendous, as I am only 100 yards from the OH lines on the East Coast = main railway line, surrounded by houses and a block of flats with = associated busy roads. My 'T' transmitting aerial 8m high is useless = for RX. I can fully recommend both miniwhip and Wellbrook Loop, both = of which cover from LF to 10m. For best results, I suppose a tuned = loop about 1m square has the edge, but not as convenient.=20 73 Dennis M0JXM From: Roger Lapthorn To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" ; = rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk=20 Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013, 7:00 Subject: LF: Wellbrook RX loops Can anyone advise, from actual use, how well a Wellbrook loop works = on 136 and 472kHz RX ? The excellent OIP2 and OIP3 figures and = directivity suggest one could be very useful.=20 73s Roger G3XBM ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01CE79B1.D14511A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello LF/MF,
 
I just got a call from Cesare I5TGC, an = old man,=20 old timer with young heart!
 
He told me that he's now active also on = 470 kHz=20 with an update off his transverter and antenna.
He regrets that although he placed = several calls he=20 got no replies (only a QSO with Marzio who lives abt 40 km = away.
He noticed also that the band is plenty = of digital=20 modes (WSPR Opera) but apparently nobody on the air with QRSS. I = explained him=20 that due to the band characteristics when condition are good the traffic = takes=20 places in CW... but when signals are digged in the noise only digital = modes are=20 looking to give resoults.
Due to the ...birth date (hi) he = regrets he can not=20 stay up after 2200 local time (now 2000 UTC) so he's missing something = but hopes=20 when winter will approach again to hear somebody..
 
CU
 
Marco IK1HSS
 
(still with no antenna to = transmit...)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DENNIS EASTERLING =
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 = 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Wellbrook RX = loops

Hi = Roger
  I use a Wellbrook Loop type ALA1530 = (MW/HF)  mounted 1m off the ground and a PA0RDT = mini-whip=20 mounted about 7m above ground.   Sometimes the loop = wins other=20 times the miniwhip.   The miniwhip is omnidirectional and = uses the e=20 field, whereas the loop is directional and uses the magnetic=20 field.   The miniwhip is more open to BC breakthough than = the loop=20 but more sensitive.   I tend to monitor with the miniwhip, = and=20 switch to the loop after homing in on the signal if this = helps.   BC=20 breakthough is overcome using a simple series LC circuit tuned to the = required=20 band at the RX end of the coax.   The QRM at my QRT can be=20 horrendous, as I am only 100 yards from the OH lines on the East Coast = main=20 railway line, surrounded by houses and a block of flats with = associated busy=20 roads.   My 'T' transmitting aerial 8m high is useless for=20 RX.   I can fully recommend both miniwhip and Wellbrook = Loop,=20 both of which cover from LF to 10m.   For best results, I = suppose a=20 tuned loop about 1m square has the edge, but not as=20 convenient.    73 Dennis M0JXM

From: Roger Lapthorn=20 <rogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
To: = "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org"=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk=20
Sent: Friday, 5 = July 2013,=20 7:00
Subject: LF: = Wellbrook=20 RX loops

Can anyone advise, from actual = use,  how=20 well a Wellbrook loop works on 136 and 472kHz RX ? The excellent OIP2 = and OIP3=20 figures and directivity suggest one could be very useful. =

73s
Roger=20 G3XBM


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