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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Funny you should say that - WD2XDW in Okie did a ground heating experiement with the LF loop on 137 back in 2005 or so. In winter we shoved on the Decca at full tilt for 24 hours at around 1.3Kw or so output - and using an infracamera and temp measuring source looked for any residual increase in "coming to surface" heating due to losses under the loop. Safe to say there was lot of heat sinking I didnt see any increase in the ground temp which isnt suprising given area/depth. 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Safe to say there was lot of heat sinking I didnt see any increa= se in the ground temp which isnt suprising given area/depth.=20 =20 Even our encumbent Ground hog "Boss" who was holded up under the loop staye= d with us... =20 The hottest part of the array was the 3/8 inch threaded Brass in Ceramic f= eed thrus coming from the paralled loops (which Ive now bypassed in the cur= rent XPQ design) =20 Laurence KL 1 X =20 Date: Tue=2C 11 Jun 2013 22:34:40 +0100 From: g4gvw@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: g3kevmal@talktalk.net Subject: Re: LF: Re: DIY WIND GENERATOR =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Aah Haa! =0A= =20 =0A= I always believed there was a way of growing "baked potatoes"! =0A= =20 =0A= 73 =0A= = --_e2abed89-043b-43a1-a528-07b2f3501c13_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Funny you should say that - WD2X= DW in Okie  =3Bdid a ground heating experiement with the LF loop on 137= back =3Bin 2005 or so.
 =3B
In winter we shoved on the Decca= at full tilt for 24 hours at around 1.3Kw or so output - and using an infr= acamera and temp measuring source looked for any residual increase in "comi= ng to surface" heating =3Bdue to =3Blosses under the loop. Safe to = say =3B there was lot of heat sinking I =3Bdidnt see any increase i= n =3Bthe ground temp which isnt suprising given area/depth.
 = =3B
Even our encumbent Ground hog "Boss" who was holded up under the loo= p stayed with us...
 =3B
The hottest part of the array was the&nb= sp=3B 3/8 inch threaded Brass in =3BCeramic feed thrus coming from the = paralled loops =3B(which Ive now bypassed in the current XPQ design) =3B
Laurence KL 1 X
 =3B

Da= te: Tue=2C 11 Jun 2013 22:34:40 +0100
From: g4gvw@aol.com
To: rsgb_lf= _group@blacksheep.org
CC: g3kevmal@talktalk.net
Subject: Re: LF: Re: = DIY WIND GENERATOR

=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Aah Haa!
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=0A= I always believed there was a way of growing "baked potatoes"!
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=0A= 73
=0A=  =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B
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