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Bannister is on the Stanford site http://www-ee.stanford.edu/~acfs/82Hz.pdf Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) [...] Content analysis details: (-0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.252.208 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 567a11ac6cfe1e88f3054745c06178fe Subject: Re: LF: ELF antenna ERP calculations - request for resend of information Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01CE6495.CF273140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-dl06.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad451b3917a61b5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CE6495.CF273140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roger, Tom, the paper by A. Fraser-Smith and P. Bannister is on the Stanford site http://www-ee.stanford.edu/~acfs/82Hz.pdf Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: DK1IS=20 Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 8:01 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: ELF antenna ERP calculations - request for resend of = information Am 08.06.2013 18:15, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: Some months ago - time flies, so it may have been last year - someone = kindly sent me a copy of a paper, or at least a formula, to work out the = radiated power (as opposed to other forms of signal transmission) from = an earth-electrode pair "antenna" at ELF. I think it was based on some = of the Project Sanguine work at 76Hz back in the 1970s. I thought I'd = saved this, but cannot locate it anywhere. If you remember sending me this data, please would you resend it? Thanks. 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm Hello Roger, perhaps the following link may help you: http://www.vlf.it/zevs/zevs.htm There are some discussions about the magnetic moment of the loop between = the earth electrodes. 73, Tom, DK1IS ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01CE6495.CF273140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Roger, Tom,
 
the paper by A. Fraser-Smith and = P. Bannister=20 is on the Stanford site
http://www-ee.stanford= .edu/~acfs/82Hz.pdf
 
Best 73,
Markus = (DF6NM)

From: DK1IS
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 8:01 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: ELF antenna ERP calculations - request for = resend=20 of information

Am 08.06.2013 18:15, schrieb Roger=20 Lapthorn:
Some months ago - time flies, so it may have been last year - = someone=20 kindly sent me a copy of a paper, or at least a formula, to work out = the=20 radiated power (as opposed to other forms of signal transmission) from = an=20 earth-electrode pair "antenna" at ELF. I think it was based on some of = the=20 Project Sanguine work at 76Hz back in the 1970s. I thought I'd saved = this, but=20 cannot locate it anywhere.

If you remember sending = me this=20 data, please would you resend it?

Thanks.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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Hello=20 Roger,

perhaps the following link may help you:

http://www.vlf.it/zevs/zevs.htm<= /A>

There=20 are some discussions about the magnetic moment of the loop between the = earth=20 electrodes.

73,
Tom, DK1IS
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