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[86.30.112.201]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u7sm9146234eef.14.2013.06.08.13.23.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Jun 2013 13:23:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <51B3716D.8080709@kabelmail.de> From: Roger Lapthorn X-Mailer: iPod Mail (10A523) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6C3FE506-159D-451C-BCCE-9F008B71EDE0@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 21:23:28 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks for everyone's help in this. Superb support. 73s Roger G3Xbm On 8 Jun 2013, at 21:16, "Markus Vester" wrote: [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [74.125.83.46 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rogerlapthorn[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 MIME_QP_LONG_LINE RAW: Quoted-printable line longer than 76 chars 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: fb42d311bf65eb51bbb8124890b4f977 Subject: Re: LF: ELF antenna ERP calculations - request for resend of information Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C1256F46-D293-4752-B24A-9072A13A29B9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mg06.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60ce51b392fc6833 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror --Apple-Mail-C1256F46-D293-4752-B24A-9072A13A29B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for everyone's help in this. Superb support.=20 73s Roger G3Xbm On 8 Jun 2013, at 21:16, "Markus Vester" wrote: > Roger, Tom, > =20 > the paper by A. Fraser-Smith and P. Bannister is on the Stanford site > http://www-ee.stanford.edu/~acfs/82Hz.pdf > =20 > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) >=20 > From: DK1IS > Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 8:01 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: ELF antenna ERP calculations - request for resend of info= rmation >=20 > Am 08.06.2013 18:15, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: >> Some months ago - time flies, so it may have been last year - someone kin= dly sent me a copy of a paper, or at least a formula, to work out the radiat= ed power (as opposed to other forms of signal transmission) from an earth= -electrode pair "antenna" at ELF. I think it was based on some of the Projec= t Sanguine work at 76Hz back in the 1970s. I thought I'd saved this, but can= not locate it anywhere. >>=20 >> If you remember sending me this data, please would you resend it? >>=20 >> Thanks. >>=20 >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >>=20 >> --=20 >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >> http://qss2.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > Hello Roger, >=20 > perhaps the following link may help you: >=20 > http://www.vlf.it/zevs/zevs.htm >=20 > There are some discussions about the magnetic moment of the loop between t= he earth electrodes. >=20 > 73, > Tom, DK1IS --Apple-Mail-C1256F46-D293-4752-B24A-9072A13A29B9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for everyone's help in this. Su= perb support. 

73s
Roger G3Xbm
On 8 Jun 2013, at 21:16, "Markus Vester" <markusvester@aol.com> wrote:

Roger, Tom,
 
the paper by A. Fraser-Smith and P= . Bannister=20 is on the Stanford site
http://www-ee.stanford.edu/~acfs/82Hz.pdf
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)<= /div>

From: DK1IS
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: LF: ELF antenna ERP calculations - request for rese= nd=20 of information
=
Am 08.06.2013 18:15, schrieb Roger=20 Lapthorn:
Some months ago - time flies, so it may have been last year - someone= =20 kindly sent me a copy of a paper, or at least a formula, to work out the=20= radiated power (as opposed to other forms of signal transmission) from an=20= earth-electrode pair "antenna" at ELF. I think it was based on some of the= =20 Project Sanguine work at 76Hz back in the 1970s. I thought I'd saved this,= but=20 cannot locate it anywhere.

If you remember sending me t= his=20 data, please would you resend it?

Thanks.
Hello=20 Roger,

perhaps the following link may help you:

http://www.vlf= .it/zevs/zevs.htm

There=20 are some discussions about the magnetic moment of the loop between the earth= =20 electrodes.

73,
Tom, DK1IS
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