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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Jim, Interesting, DK2DB is living just a few km distant from Heidelberg and he is a regular monitoring and transmitting station on 630m, see below! 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Incidentally, if you=20 > click on the website, you need to look at the bottom of the "Produkte"=20 > list for "Mittelwellen Komponenten" and within that for "Mittelwellen=20 > Transverter". You should be able to get a lot out of that even if you=20 > don't read German. > > I received the following reply, in German as I had indicated possible.=20 > Brief summary in English: the present performance on 136 is limited by=20 > the internal 500 kHz LP filters, but he has recognized there could be=20 > interest in a 136 kHz-specific unit and plans to work on that in the=20 > coming week. He also points out that we in North America may have=20 > difficulty obtaining one connector for it, so he would supply units=20 > for here with a jumper with the appropriate connector on one end and=20 > the other end open. > > Not included in this post to the reflector was a detailed attachment=20 > he sent me, including close-up photos, circuit diagrams, and=20 > discussion. For this, I suggest you contact Ewald G=F6bel, DK2DB=20 > > > 73, > > Jim, VE1JF > ********************** > Hallo Jim > Vielen Dank f=FCr Ihre Anfrage. > Es freut mich, da=DF ich in deutsch schreiben darf, das geht bei mir=20 > wesentlich schneller ! > Im Moment ist der Transverter so ausgelegt, da=DF alle Tiefpa=DFfilter=20 > eine Eckfrequenz von ca. 500 kHz haben. Nutzt man den Transverter auch=20 > f=FCr 136 kHz, sollte man externe Filter vorsehen. > Allerdings habe ich bei der Entwicklung bereits daran gedacht, da=DF=20 > auch Interesse sein k=F6nnte an einem "reinen" Langwellentransverter.=20 > Bis auf die internen Filter ist alles daf=FCr dimensioniert. Ich werde=20 > am Wochenende einmal "Filter rechnen" und Ihnen Anfang n=E4chster Woche= =20 > mitteilen, ob das funktioniert. > Die Daten w=E4ren dann exakt die selben wie jetzt beim=20 > Mittelwellentransverter. > Anbei sende ich Ihnen die Beschreibung (in deutsch) f=FCr unseren=20 > Mittelwellentransverter, speziell ob alles verst=E4ndlich ist ! > Da Sie in VE-Land evtl. Probleme haben, die von uns verwendeten=20 > SMB-Stecker zu bekommen, wir bieten daf=FCr auch einseitg=20 > konfektionierte Kabel an. > vy 73 > Dipl. Ing. (FH) Ewald G=F6bel DK2DB > Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer > > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Wolf Ostwald" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:53 AM > Subject: LF: 470/136 to 10MC Transverter > > >> hello Group ! >> ID-elektronic offers a transverter for 472 kc to 10 mc band, 136 can=20 >> be transverted , too. >> http://www.id-elektronik.de/index2.htm >> it might be worth consideration for the 380 Euros asked for the=20 >> assembled unit >> >> 73 de wolf df2py >> >> > > > > --------------000007000809070101030602 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id r43J0nJ7014638 Hello Jim,

Interesting, DK2DB is living just a few km distant from Heidelberg and he is a regular monitoring and transmitting station on 630m, see below! Probably he is using his own transverter for RX/TX? ;-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
=A02013-05-01 21:42=A0 =A0G6AVK=A0 =A00.475764=A0 =A0-30=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JO01ho=A0 =A00.005=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0630=A0 =A0115=A0
=A02013-05-01 20:50=A0 =A0IW4DXW=A0 =A00.475718=A0 =A0-22=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN64bw=A0 =A010=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0525=A0 =A0329=A0
=A02013-05-01 20:32=A0 =A0PA3ABK=A0 =A00.475652=A0 =A0-2=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JO21it=A0 =A00.5=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0416=A0 =A0139=A0
=A02013-05-01 20:14=A0 =A0I5MXX=A0 =A00.475630=A0 =A0-13=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN53ju=A0 =A02=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0593=A0 =A0343=A0
=A02013-05-01 20:14=A0 =A0DK6NI=A0 =A00.475733=A0 =A0-18=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN59ln=A0 =A00.1=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0194=A0 =A0250=A0
=A02013-04-30 21:42=A0 =A0DF2LS=A0 =A00.475773=A0 =A0-18=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JO53dr=A0 =A00.2=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0548=A0 =A0194=A0
=A02013-04-27 23:14=A0 =A0M0PPP=A0 =A00.475778=A0 =A0-26=A0 =A0-1=A0 =A0IO93gm=A0 =A00.05=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0857=A0 =A0122=A0
=A02013-04-27 19:56=A0 =A0PA0A=A0 =A00.475700=A0 =A0-8=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JO33de=A0 =A02=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0496=A0 =A0161=A0
=A02013-04-25 19:40=A0 =A0PA3EGO=A0 =A00.475707=A0 =A0-8=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JO22mb=A0 =A05=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0423=A0 =A0144=A0
=A02013-04-24 22:08=A0 =A0F5WK=A0 =A00.475721=A0 =A0-18=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN18hp=A0 =A00.1=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0428=A0 =A083=A0
=A02013-04-23 18:40=A0 =A0DL8YCA=A0 =A00.475751=A0 =A0-30=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JO31or=A0 =A00.001=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0323=A0 =A0164=A0
=A02013-04-23 18:24=A0 =A0DK7FC=A0 =A00.475685=A0 =A0+11=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN49ik=A0 =A01=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A058=A0 =A0198=A0
=A02013-04-22 20:56=A0 =A0DJ9AE=A0 =A00.475666=A0 =A0-23=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JO42ag=A0 =A00.001=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0372=A0 =A0175=A0
=A02013-04-22 20:40=A0 =A0DG3LV=A0 =A00.475778=A0 =A0-23=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JO53gv=A0 =A020=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A0570=A0 =A0196=A0

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
=A02013-05-01 20:28=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475650=A0 =A0-25=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0PA3ABK/2=A0 =A0JO21it=A0 =A0416=A0 =A0322=A0
=A02013-05-01 20:28=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475651=A0 =A0-29=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0I5MXX=A0 =A0JN53ju=A0 =A0593=A0 =A0162=A0
=A02013-05-01 20:28=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475660=A0 =A0-28=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0PA1GSJ=A0 =A0JO22da=A0 =A0452=A0 =A0321=A0
=A02013-05-01 20:18=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475649=A0 =A0-30=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0F59706=A0 =A0JN07th=A0 =A0538=A0 =A0253=A0
=A02013-04-30 22:18=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475653=A0 =A0-28=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0PA0RDT=A0 =A0JO11tm=A0 =A0448=A0 =A0312=A0
=A02013-04-30 22:06=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475651=A0 =A0-26=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0S57MK=A0 =A0JN75cw=A0 =A0546=A0 =A0125=A0
=A02013-04-30 21:30=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475649=A0 =A0-18=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DF2LS=A0 =A0JO53dr=A0 =A0548=A0 =A013=A0
=A02013-04-30 20:36=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475651=A0 =A0-23=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DL4YHF=A0 =A0JO42fd=A0 =A0357=A0 =A00=A0
=A02013-04-30 20:36=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475653=A0 =A0+8=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DF8UO=A0 =A0JN48ex=A0 =A08=A0 =A0307=A0
=A02013-04-29 19:18=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475649=A0 =A0-29=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DK2TX=A0 =A0JN59ln=A0 =A0194=A0 =A068=A0
=A02013-04-28 21:08=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475652=A0 =A0-18=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DF0WD=A0 =A0JO42fd=A0 =A0357=A0 =A00=A0
=A02013-04-27 20:56=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475655=A0 =A0-8=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DK7FC=A0 =A0JN49ik=A0 =A058=A0 =A018=A0
=A02013-04-27 20:56=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475653=A0 =A0-18=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DH7AHO=A0 =A0JN48fx=A0 =A05=A0 =A00=A0
=A02013-04-27 18:38=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475652=A0 =A0-18=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DL8SAR=A0 =A0JN48ow=A0 =A055=A0 =A090=A0
=A02013-04-25 21:50=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475652=A0 =A0-30=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0G0VQH=A0 =A0JO02fe=A0 =A0670=A0 =A0306=A0
=A02013-04-25 21:20=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475652=A0 =A0-29=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0G6AVK=A0 =A0JO01ho=A0 =A0630=A0 =A0301=A0
=A02013-04-25 20:14=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475653=A0 =A0-26=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0F5WK=A0 =A0JN18hp=A0 =A0428=A0 =A0268=A0
=A02013-04-24 19:46=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475648=A0 =A0-26=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0PI4THT=A0 =A0JO32kf=A0 =A0383=A0 =A0344=A0
=A02013-04-23 19:12=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475652=A0 =A0-24=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0PA0A=A0 =A0JO33de=A0 =A0496=A0 =A0343=A0
=A02013-04-22 19:42=A0 =A0DK2DB=A0 =A00.475654=A0 =A0-25=A0 =A00=A0 =A0JN48fw=A0 =A00.01=A0 =A0DG3LV=A0 =A0JO53gv=A0 =A0570=A0 =A014=A0


Am 03.05.2013 20:26, schrieb Jim and Hannelore Fisher:
Group: I was interested in Wolf's notice and wrote IG-Elektronik about the specs for use on 136 kHz; the website indicates the present unit can be used but with unspecified reduced specs. Incidentally, if you click on the website, you need to look at the bottom of the "Produkte" list for "Mittelwellen Komponenten" and within that for "Mittelwellen Transverter". You should be able to get a lot out of that even if you don't read German.

I received the following reply, in German as I had indicated possible. Brief summary in English: the present performance on 136 is limited by the internal 500 kHz LP filters, but he has recognized there could be interest in a 136 kHz-specific unit and plans to work on that in the coming week. He also points out that we in North America may have difficulty obtaining one connector for it, so he would supply units for here with a jumper with the appropriate connector on one end and the other end open.

Not included in this post to the reflector was a detailed attachment he sent me, including close-up photos, circuit diagrams, and discussion. For this, I suggest you contact Ewald G=F6bel, DK2DB <E.Goebel@ID-Elektronik.de>

73,

Jim, VE1JF
**********************
Hallo Jim
Vielen Dank f=FCr Ihre Anfrage.
Es freut mich, da=DF ich in deutsch schreiben darf, das geht bei mir wesentlich schneller !
Im Moment ist der Transverter so ausgelegt, da=DF alle Tiefpa=DFfilter ei= ne Eckfrequenz von ca. 500 kHz haben. Nutzt man den Transverter auch f=FCr 136 kHz, sollte man externe Filter vorsehen.
Allerdings habe ich bei der Entwicklung bereits daran gedacht, da=DF auch Interesse sein k=F6nnte an einem "reinen" Langwellentransverter. Bis auf die internen Filter ist alles daf=FCr dimensioniert. Ich werde am Wochenende einmal "Filter rechnen" und Ihnen Anfang n=E4chster Woche mitteilen, ob das funktioniert.
Die Daten w=E4ren dann exakt die selben wie jetzt beim Mittelwellentransverter.
Anbei sende ich Ihnen die Beschreibung (in deutsch) f=FCr unseren Mittelwellentransverter, speziell ob alles verst=E4ndlich ist !
Da Sie in VE-Land evtl. Probleme haben, die von uns verwendeten SMB-Stecker zu bekommen, wir bieten daf=FCr auch einseitg konfektionierte Kabel an.
vy 73
Dipl. Ing. (FH) Ewald G=F6bel DK2DB
Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer

rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group@black= sheep.org>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Wolf Ostwald" <= df2py@t-online.de>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:53 AM
Subject: LF: 470/136 to 10MC Transverter


hello Group !
ID-elektronic offers a transverter for 472 kc to 10 mc band, 136 can be transverted , too.
http://www.id-elektronik.de/index2.htm
it might be worth consideration for the 380 Euros asked for the assembled unit

73 de wolf=A0 df2py






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