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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Group: I was interested in Wolf's notice and wrote IG-Elektronik about the specs for use on 136 kHz; the website indicates the present unit can be used but with unspecified reduced specs. Incidentally, if you click on the website, you need to look at the bottom of the "Produkte" list for "Mittelwellen Komponenten" and within that for "Mittelwellen Transverter". You should be able to get a lot out of that even if you don't read German. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [24.224.136.30 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: ebba021850e0a5d4120636e52401e975 Subject: LF: Re: 470/136 to 10MC Transverter Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-15; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d9518409500f85 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Group: I was interested in Wolf's notice and wrote IG-Elektronik abou= t the=20 specs for use on 136 kHz; the website indicates the present unit can = be used=20 but with unspecified reduced specs. Incidentally, if you click on the= =20 website, you need to look at the bottom of the "Produkte" list for= =20 "Mittelwellen Komponenten" and within that for "Mittelwellen Transver= ter".=20 You should be able to get a lot out of that even if you don't read Ge= rman. I received the following reply, in German as I had indicated possible= . Brief=20 summary in English: the present performance on 136 is limited by the= =20 internal 500 kHz LP filters, but he has recognized there could be int= erest=20 in a 136 kHz-specific unit and plans to work on that in the coming we= ek. He=20 also points out that we in North America may have difficulty obtainin= g one=20 connector for it, so he would supply units for here with a jumper wit= h the=20 appropriate connector on one end and the other end open. Not included in this post to the reflector was a detailed attachment = he sent=20 me, including close-up photos, circuit diagrams, and discussion. For = this, I=20 suggest you contact Ewald G=F6bel, DK2DB 73, Jim, VE1JF ********************** Hallo Jim Vielen Dank f=FCr Ihre Anfrage. Es freut mich, da=DF ich in deutsch schreiben darf, das geht bei mir= =20 wesentlich schneller ! Im Moment ist der Transverter so ausgelegt, da=DF alle Tiefpa=DFfilte= r eine=20 Eckfrequenz von ca. 500 kHz haben. Nutzt man den Transverter auch f= =FCr 136=20 kHz, sollte man externe Filter vorsehen. Allerdings habe ich bei der Entwicklung bereits daran gedacht, da= =DF auch=20 Interesse sein k=F6nnte an einem "reinen" Langwellentransverter. Bis = auf die=20 internen Filter ist alles daf=FCr dimensioniert. Ich werde am Wochene= nde=20 einmal "Filter rechnen" und Ihnen Anfang n=E4chster Woche mitteilen, = ob das=20 funktioniert. Die Daten w=E4ren dann exakt die selben wie jetzt beim=20 Mittelwellentransverter. Anbei sende ich Ihnen die Beschreibung (in deutsch) f=FCr unseren= =20 Mittelwellentransverter, speziell ob alles verst=E4ndlich ist ! Da Sie in VE-Land evtl. Probleme haben, die von uns verwendeten SMB-S= tecker=20 zu bekommen, wir bieten daf=FCr auch einseitg konfektionierte Kabel a= n. vy 73 Dipl. Ing. (FH) Ewald G=F6bel DK2DB Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ----- Original Message -----=20 =46rom: "Dr. Wolf Ostwald" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 4:53 AM Subject: LF: 470/136 to 10MC Transverter > hello Group ! > ID-elektronic offers a transverter for 472 kc to 10 mc band, 136 ca= n be=20 > transverted , too. > http://www.id-elektronik.de/index2.htm > it might be worth consideration for the 380 Euros asked for the ass= embled=20 > unit > > 73 de wolf df2py > >=20