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To: Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:35:25 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <515DC8EB.6@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Amazon UK has a bunch of DTV dongles for under £20. See example below:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-DTV300-Receiver-Freeview-supports/dp/B 003UNTNCU/ref=pd_sim_computers_13 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.99.235 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 4933636f78fd1782d378a0372a2e835c Subject: LF: =?iso-8859-1?Q?_=A310_Dongel-SDR__Direct_sample_on_504_KHz_=5BAmazon=5D?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01CE3173.EF9D8140" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-de02.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40ca515dde2b61b7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CE3173.EF9D8140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Amazon UK has a bunch of DTV dongles for under £20. See example below:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/ClimaxDigital-DTV300-Receiver-Freeview-supports/dp/B 003UNTNCU/ref=pd_sim_computers_13 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Stefan Schäfer Sent: 04 April 2013 19:40 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF: £10 Dongel-SDR Direct sample on 504 KHz I read about these TV dongles, mentioned a few months ago. But this VHF stuff is uninteresting for me. However, if there are sticks that cover LF and MF, this could be interesting. So, what is the name of the stick? Link? "Cozy Cave" leads me to that page http://www.calicavycollective.com/2012/04/cozy-cave-from-cozy-cavy.html 73, Stefan Am 04.04.2013 20:25, schrieb Graham: UP Convertor ? Pete No need now , the latest drivers now address the a/d (i/q) directly , those shots are only using the dongle , with a wire to pin 1 of the a/d .the e4000 convertor chip is not used , , to use vhf , need to simply change the sample setting and connect the vhf Ae to the normal input Direct sampling ... there is no fall off past 1 mhz , that was the 504 carrier to day , with qsb showing on Spec-lab in 3D , had about 25 % cpu left on the old P4 100MHz pc , will also run sdr + Opera or Ros [ must drop a dual core in some time !] 73 -G. From: M0FMT Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: LF: £10 Dongel-SDR Direct sample on 504 KHz Try Cozy Cave TV DVB sticks have been available for 12months at about a tenner (that's Sterling; EU ?). Thought every body had one by now. Using HDSDR with Balint Seber's plug in you can receiver from almost DC to light....... :o) Using an up converter to 60megs plus, will give full HF coverage (LPF's help). The Chip set also allows other tricks that Graham describes look on You-tube. There are other very expensive alternatives beware! 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX From: Stefan Schäfer To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Thursday, 4 April 2013, 18:28 Subject: Re: LF: £10 Dongel-SDR Direct sample on 504 KHz G.. Unbelivable! Where can one buy that dongle? Do you have a link for us? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 04.04.2013 15:01, schrieb Graham: All £10 Dongel-SDR Direct sample on 504 KHz The latest window drives for the ultra-cheap sdr dongle project , now have the 'direct sample' option all that is needed is a wire to pin '1' of the AD chip , [ ie use the decoupling cap as a terminal post] select I/Q , and you have a HF rx , which tunes down to zero (ish) This is the 504 carrier from my main Ae via tuner , showing qsb navtex from the south coast last night 518 ,100% copy , so not bad .. 73 -G.. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01CE3173.EF9D8140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Amazon=20 UK has a bunch of DTV dongles for under =A320. See example=20 below:-
 
http://www.amazon.co.uk/C= limaxDigital-DTV300-Receiver-Freeview-supports/dp/B003UNTNCU/ref=3Dpd_sim= _computers_13
 
73,=20 Dave G3WCB IO91RM
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Stefan=20 Sch=E4fer
Sent: 04 April 2013 19:40
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: LF: =A310 = Dongel-SDR=20 Direct sample on 504 KHz

I read about these TV = dongles,=20 mentioned a few months ago. But this VHF stuff is uninteresting for = me.=20 However, if there are sticks that cover LF and MF, this could be = interesting.=20
So, what is the name of the stick? Link? "Cozy Cave" leads me to = that page=20 http://www.calicavycollective.com/2012/04/cozy-cave-from-cozy-cav= y.html

73,=20 Stefan


Am 04.04.2013 20:25, schrieb Graham:=20
UP Convertor ?
 
Pete
 
No need now  , the  latest  drivers  = now =20 address  the  a/d   (i/q)   = directly  ,=20 those   shots  are  only  using  = the =20 dongle  , with a  wire to  pin 1 of the  a/d = .the =20 e4000  convertor   chip  is not  used  = , ,=20 to  use   vhf  , need  to  = simply  change=20 the  sample  setting  and  connect=20 the     vhf  Ae to  the  = normal =20 input  
 
Direct  sampling  ...   there  = is =20 no  fall  off  past  1 mhz  ,  =20 that  was  the  504 carrier  to  day  = ,=20 with  qsb  showing  on Spec-lab in 3D  , had = about =20 25 % cpu  left  on the  old   P4 =20 100MHz   pc ,  will  also  =20 run    sdr  + Opera   or  =20 Ros   [ must  drop  a  dual  = core  in=20 some time  !]
 
73 -G.
 
 
 
 

From: M0FMT
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:07 PM
Subject: LF: Re: LF: =A310 Dongel-SDR Direct sample on = 504=20 KHz

Try Cozy Cave
 
TV DVB sticks have been available for 12months at about a = tenner (that's Sterling; EU = ?). Thought every=20 body had one by now. Using HDSDR with Balint Seber's plug in you can = receiver from almost DC to = light.......=20 :o) Using an up converter to 60megs plus, will give full HF coverage = (LPF's=20 help). The Chip set also allows=20 other tricks that Graham describes look on You-tube.
 
There are other very expensive alternatives beware!
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
From: Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer= @iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: = Thursday, 4 April=20 2013, 18:28
Subject: Re:=20 LF: =A310 Dongel-SDR Direct sample on 504 KHz

G..

Unbelivable! Where can one buy that dongle? Do you = have a=20 link for us?

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 04.04.2013 15:01, = schrieb=20 Graham:=20
All
 
=A310 Dongel-SDR  Direct sample on 504 KHz
 
The  latest  window  drives   = for =20 the  ultra-cheap    sdr  =20 dongle   project , now  have the  = 'direct =20 sample'  option 
 
all  that  is needed  is  a  = wire =20 to  pin '1'  of the  AD chip  , [ ie  = use=20 the  decoupling cap  as a  terminal  = post]
 
select  I/Q , and  you  have a  HF = rx  ,=20 which tunes  down to   zero  (ish)
 
This is the  504  carrier  from my  = main=20 Ae  via tuner , showing  qsb 
 
navtex  from the  south coast last  = night =20 518  ,100% copy  , so  not  bad  = ..
 
73=20 = -G..



 
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